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sergejnowo 24.08.2009 23:44

Icon and Kuzma Sergeevich
 
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Icon and Kuzma Sergeevich

attribution below shows the icons yielded interesting results.
Icon suspected mid-19 th, early 20 th century. Folk icon.
Geographically assigned: Volga Region, Saratov Province, Khvalynsk and neighborhood, or close to Little Russia.
Optionally, it was stated that the icon of colors, technique and style is natural creativity K.S.P-B.

What do you say? : D: D

redbor 25.08.2009 01:20

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Almost no doubt! He also studied at the icon-painters.
And then - a model clearly, all the exact same, my love.

Кирилл Сызранский 25.08.2009 22:13

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 568886)
or closer to Little Russia.

Most likely your icon Yuzhnorussky origin.
In Khvalynskoye in the 19 th century, written by Syzran poshibu Iconographers-Old Believers, for example, the famous icon painter, VA Commissars.

sergejnowo 26.08.2009 09:09

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 569956)
Most likely your icon Yuzhnorussky origin.

did not prompt any, on the modern fashion, geographic regions covered the concept of "Yuzhnorussky origin"

Кирилл Сызранский 26.08.2009 09:17

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 570266)
on the modern fashion

This "fashion"-the current Central and Eastern Ukraine.
But your icon and Homel similar.
The influence of Baroque, "west".

SAH 26.08.2009 09:24

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 570296)
But your icon and Homel similar.
The influence of Baroque, "west".

More west than east, the influence, as for me:)

redbor 27.08.2009 10:03

"Western influence"! Sounds good!
Why west? What is it expressed?
Can see what it is Western signs?

Кирилл Сызранский 27.08.2009 10:12

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 572196)
"Western influence"! Sounds good!
Why west? What is it expressed?
Can see what it is Western signs?

The academic style of icon painting (or as it was called the supporters of the canon-"zhivopodobnaya")-Western influence.
Is this you do not know?
A really old believers do not recognize zhivopodobnuyu icon.
"Canon prayer teaches more than zhivopodobnaya icon" - said that.

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redbor, then how about we received a secular academic painting to talk about, I hope?

: D: D: D

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By the way, Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin began his studies of painting in the icon-painting studio, writing icons.
  But then I went to study in the railway school in Samara, did not go there *, but went to a private school of painting and drawing FE Burov.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...245#post572245
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In Samara, sometimes recall an anecdote about the exam Petrov-Vodkin.
 

died as a result of cholera, and chased the vodka.

Famous painter Kuzma Sergeevich Petrov-Vodkin, in 1893-1895 he studied in art classes Samara artist F. E. Burov.
Before that, he tried unsuccessfully to do in Samara railway school. At the exam Kuzma had written to present the history of Russia. The first sentence came quickly: "Ancient Russian chimneyless lived in pits, as half-savage people, and sown cereals. Thinking he was placed in these holes "ancient child" who died in them "like chickens". Here entrant has overcome doubts: "Qi" or "qi"? He struck out the word and wrote: "They died as a result of cholera." Inhabitants wells hunted "fur-bearing animals" and "vodka race". On the civilians "climbed" armed Artel, who gathered at the tribute began to build cities. Then strife arose between the princes and ... teacher announced that allotted for the exam two o'clock expired.
Back Kuzma received his papers along with the words: "That way, young man, you and train the pit enclosures, as the native homeland driven.
:)

Allena 27.08.2009 13:20

Hardly Kuzma Sergeevich (I think). Closer, I think, to the self-taught, non-professional icon-painter (but this icon does not lose).

sergejnowo 27.08.2009 13:37

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 572546)

Hardly Kuzma Sergeevich (I think).

Yes of course he did not.:)
Conversation over styling and similarity.


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