Go to the author for authorship
 

You can often hear such an opinion: Thank God the author is alive, he-and confirm that it is his job!

But what if you are absolutely sure of the authorship of the artist (that is really his thing), but it lacks only the signature. And here you are in high spirits go to the author ... but he refuses to acknowledge that the work - it. Though you (and he!) know exactly what the author - he said.

How to be here? What should I do? And what could be the reasons for this, to put it mildly, an unpleasant situation?

Please tell us would be very grateful.

IV, such issues were already on the forum.

Here, he found a similar free.

Thanks, Cyril!
That's it

One of my friend bought at the flea market in Paris, still life, very much reminiscent of Picasso and was stupid enough to go to the heirs.

So.
Heiress poluvyskrebla with a knife signature Picasso still life.

I do not understand what relationship the heirs may have to the examination if they are not art, or have not lived with the author of much of his life, but people trust.

And that the heiress just could not know anything about Picasso still life of the century.

There are options for more complicated when the author admits everything.
Old age!
And there is a terrible mess.

 :eek: :D :D :D

Feel uneasy ... Frighteningly, this situation: you have a thing with a good story, the author is obvious (and it is that we should), there is only a signature, or it is completely unreadable. There are people who are ready for a good thing to take money, but ... the author of Live and you say: "confirms his authorship, and the trick is done: our thing - your money!" And then the fun begins: suppose you have neither the author nor the author you are not even close to know. And what if he gives you turned down (which is very likely)? And in the end? Buyers 'jump off' thing all drops out of circulation the originals, and your reputation is stained ... In my opinion, think a hundred times: whether to go with a friend the artist? And forgive me for the terrible thought, perhaps, be envied by the owners, whose authors have long since gone away to another world. Indeed, the attribution of experts are subject to change and the fact that yesterday was nothing today was all (and vice versa). But the verdict of the author, as a sentence: either yes (oh, if "yes!"), Or - not (and here the end of everything).

What to do? Thou shalt not, in fact, waiting for someone's death? It's crazy and wrong. But how to pass "examination" of the author, if he's alive (and may even be subject to capricious) is also unclear.

In general, I wonder: why do writers (including journalists) have no right to give up their words? We all know: that the pen is written - not cut down with an ax. Probably published (including web) texts and sound recordings under the name of a particular author - as a sort of a universal catalog, which by virtue of its publication becomes immutable proof of authorship.

What about the artists? That is written with a brush can not that cut and so, by clicking on drop ... Once, before the advent of DNA tests, man or woman could easily (slovesno!) to abandon their children. And all because the evidence base of science in this matter was still inconsistent. Something similar is happening so far in the art. Although, of course, the tragedy of real people who threw overboard the family can not be compared with the rejected author. Nevertheless, there remains no alternative but to wait in the art will be a "DNA test". In the meantime, it seems to me necessary to establish a base personal (just personal) sites of artists (including blogs), saving in archive Web pages hosted on these images of works . It's true, I think, a way to create an evidence base for the arts in order to avoid serious misunderstandings in the future.

In this regard, I propose: as much as to fill a new topic posted by me on the forum, entitled: Personal site of artist (section Artists)

Get to know what the problem is?

Happens: Friendship is friendship, but snuff apart

I said, "get acquainted" and not "befriend".

Of course, giving advice - the most lovely thing ... but if you have not thought through in advance a simple but effective system for placing and searching options, your topic will quickly turn into a trash dump, where smth. it will be impossible to find

I admit it, shrugged

Message. from fabosch: Of course, giving advice - the most lovely thing ... but if you are not thought through in advance a simple but effective placement and search links, your topic will quickly turn into a trash dump, in which something l. it will be impossible to find
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Perhaps it seems from what I'm trying to teach someone to ... Of course, it is not - I would be one who taught :) "Just like the problem still suschestvuet.No theme of sites let it be: perhaps it will drip something interesting

I think not artists who are spread in a network of absolutely all his works, especially the workers, training, or weak, why are they spread? And it is about such and we talking about? why the picture is not signed? hence it has not been sold? or the author thought it unworthy of a signature, T e is not completed and fully operational. If the work is completed and then sold it by the author signed and framed, which can be a problem?

The fact that the author seems to be imperfect, for an amateur is a masterpiece. Of course, the "accounting" of all the works of different artists - a utopia. Nevertheless, things are laid out on people. sites, thus automatically recognized the author himself, this is a kind of personal published (once it's on the Web) directory. Is not it? Should I ignore this? When catalogs are published in book form, we buy such store, coping through them. A Persian. Sites "hang" the web, confirmed the author's name, and what happens? Work they replace each other, the whole page disappear with time, and it does not save anyone! The fact that under our noses and available, we do not appreciate? But, again, as the information published, such a site is no different. from the book. Imagine if it had come out in print directories were sold, all would have looked at them behind the counter, without buying, left, after which the circulation gradually destroyed to publishers and atvorami.

Maybe I'm wrong, does not exclude, and certainly I do not pretend to create a lean-to sites. But something has to collect (and for those who want to preserve in their archives) can and should be today. But what if "meet" disappear sites of our favorite authors? Would not hurt to be that we have not kept?

And how do you save them, if, for example, You save the link, a year on it trying to go, but the site already, for example, no.
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In fact, the contacts in the network with the authors find is not difficult, you can ask a specific question. But the main problem, in my opinion, the authors of the older generations who did not "make friends" with the Internet and have it do not. There could be no personal contact to discuss, for example, a picture with the alleged author does not, he just did not understand on the phone what is a "reset pictures on email." :D

Added after 6 minutes
I know of one author, he was never their stuff did not sign with the person. Saying "I do not X, why would I put my signature. No persuasion on him did not act until the once respected artist did not tell him one simple thing: "failure to sign the work - an unfinished work". And our author pulled a flash in the cabins, gathered all his sketches of the Volga from there, brought in workshop, all signed with the speed all the details painted, etc.
But still a lot of his things, and many unsigned popodayutsya immediately remembered his and his owners to send "on the signature."