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iside 31.10.2010 19:05

Lies and manipulations of some members of the forum
 
Вложений: 2
In short, I see this forum as a place to share useful interesting information and discuss various topics.
When someone starts to use the forum only for the benefit of drawing attention to his own person, and even manipulating the other contributors - is already over the edge.

Here we assume was the theme of the gallery in Rome good useful topic on the forum there are artists who can be a useful and needed. On the other hand, I lived in Italy for many years and know a lot of details that are willing to share, especially when it comes to possible fraud, and then wasting time and money. What does that mean?

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Сообщение от L-ana64110 (Сообщение 1355411)
Is there any evidence of dishonesty these Italians? Where? Asked to show your portfolio? This is already a crime? Or ask you to send dozens of other paintings in the address?
Why offend people with his sick speculation?

Ie L-ana64110 appears ostensibly as a defender of abuse: Do not be afraid, artists! Next, submit work, it's "sick fantasies"! There is no danger!

But someone might believe. Because L-ana64110, it is also a man, she's also an artist, she stands up for artists!

So easy, it's not quite true.

This party, if it was an honest man, that would tell about the problems with foreign gallerists who were not so long ago her own. But no, the forum, it all tells how she always participates and sold, but is silent about the problems, but in principle it right.
But then I do not understand why attack those who are on these, even "possible" problems telling?


See screenshot and draw conclusions.

Кирилл Сызранский 31.10.2010 19:26

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1356091)
But then I do not understand why attack those who are on these, even "possible" problems telling?

And I do not understand.

To colleagues were in the position L-ana64110, in a position to cheat?

Or because of the nature of the features of this member-artists?

iside 31.10.2010 19:36

Вложений: 1
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1356151)
And I do not understand.
To colleagues were in the position of L-ana64110, in a position to cheat?
Or because of the nature of the features of this member-artists?

Cyril Syzransky, why guess? If she has a shred of dignity, then it will appear and tell you. And if not, then perhaps you can do, and this conclusion is that it is absolutely not care if someone will cheat. Because the reason for which it is present on the forum here is this:

Кирилл Сызранский 31.10.2010 19:37

iside, about the reason for her presence here, I already understood.

Veronic 31.10.2010 19:46

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1356091)
This party, if it was an honest man, that would tell about the problems with foreign gallerists who were not so long ago her own.


Sometimes it hurts the artist to talk about it before the public.

Кирилл Сызранский 31.10.2010 19:51

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 1356221)
Sometimes it hurts the artist to talk about it before the public.

Then why respond to warning others about this?
Here's how:
 
Цитата:

Сообщение от L-ana64110 (Сообщение 1355411)
Is there any evidence of dishonesty these Italians? Where? Asked to show your portfolio? This is already a crime? Or ask you to send dozens of other paintings in the address?
Why offend people with his sick speculation?


iside 31.10.2010 19:54

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 1356221)
Sometimes it hurts the artist to talk about it before the general public

Veronic, agree, and I wrote but is silent about the problems, but in principle it right , and why she attacked me?
And if someone wants a human to help another, you can always talk about my own experience, but the third person, too many signs indicate that the participant is only interested in self-interest and in our own progress, even through the abuse of other m . e. just go to their heads. :mad:

Veronic 31.10.2010 19:57

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1356261)
Then why respond to warning others about this?

man always want to believe the best, because you can not a priori assume all impostors. Yes, there are art dealers and crooks, but not all are like that.
I'd only agreed to participate under such conditions that she would personally brought the paintings and would be confident that any time I pick them up.
And guess the tea leaves were deceived or not .... a thankless task.

Кирилл Сызранский 31.10.2010 20:03

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 1356301)
I'd only agreed to participate under such conditions that she would personally brought the paintings and would be confident that any time I pick them up.

Here, you do now, others warn such an indirect way.
A Imagine that you are thrown as this L-ana64110, and others you will say: "But why be afraid of something?" It's okay ... "

Veronic 31.10.2010 20:06

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Сообщение от "Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1356321)
A Imagine that you have been cheated as this L-ana64110, and others you will say:" But why be afraid of something? "It's okay ..."


Well, if so thrown, I'd just be warned.
If we are true about the American "gallerist" has been opened, it would be nice to know his name.

Moriakoff 30.05.2011 13:11

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Сообщение от iside; 1356091"
In short, I see the forum as a place to share useful interesting information and discuss various topics.
When someone starts to use the forum only for the benefit of drawing attention to his own person, and even manipulating the other contributors - is already over the edge.

Very accurately put!
But I would like to "good Samaritans." For several days in a row, throw themselves at me in a rude, shameless form bordering on rudeness and cynicism ... Well, if it concerned me alone, but the phrase "I look some members of the forum ... they are either fools or villains ..."- this is in any gate not climbing! Man warned ... and I'm not alone, but with him like water off a duck!
I'm starting to analyze:
1.He needed administration of the site as a "locomotive", vozmozhno.No on the forum a lot of knowledgeable people who do not have features Gapon.
2.U man trouble at work, vozmozhno.No no one catches on others for personal failures.
3.Gormonalnye changes in menopausal order vozmozhno.No there are doctors, andrology, help-nothing wrong with that.
4.Konkurentny attitude vozmozhno.No it just needs to support the work of the forum, and not to acquire such an ugly shape.
5.Vysokaya self-esteem, perhaps. But round-the people who also have dignity.
If you think that I was offended and apeliruyu to the administration to punish the "Samaritan," then you zabluzhdaetes.Ya treat him as to his patient ...
Sometimes, it is enough to show the cause of his person, as I think, inappropriate behavior and everything to normal. I wish him a speedy "recovery" and return to duty.

Кирилл Сызранский 30.05.2011 13:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от Moriakoff (Сообщение 1650803)
Well , if it concerned me alone, but the phrase " I look some members of the forum ... they are either fools or villains ..."

More specifically , a doctor, a thorough and accurate ...
Here's a quote :
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1649533)
Here I read reports of some members of the forum and I think : their authors are either fools or villains . :shy:>

And I still react when I read the phrase , for example , a person has lived 40-50 years (at a young age is no longer kivnesh ), literacy ( higher education , at least read /write can ), but AB - CO - Luth BUT crazy , absolutely !
That and trying to decide on a simple : fool people , or intentionally trolls , some own vile purpose prisleduet , has finally gotten here just in Nazi /fascist nonsense . Or does not understand that he wrote - " fool " or understand - a scoundrel . "
And how should I apply for the conductor the Nazi /fascist views and ideas, in other words - idealogii ?

L-ana64110 30.05.2011 13:42

WOW !!!!! How could I miss this?
 
Here is my "deal with the bones " :D " I neither sleep nor spirit ? :eek: >

And of course my favorite characters ! :D > :D > :D >

Well , what this post is like a kitchen gossip with cockroaches , it is obvious and predictable <!--~ 10 " - " on the person 's position /must again T - nye days /

With gallerists all went well , now sold denyushku sent . Warned those artists who also worked with him .
Shouting the name of gallerista without a court decision on his culpability , even foolish, but criminal . Well Iside do not understand her "own " the concept of " cultural " .
In gallerist was a black band - first into trouble with the gallery /had to close for a while. later health problems , elderly man .
I've also impermissible to panic and started to look for lawyers .
Nevertheless, many interesting things for himself learned about the rights of artists in the U.S. .

What, where and how I write , my business , I do not break the forum rules .
And do not you teach me :shy: > :p >

Кирилл Сызранский 30.05.2011 13:57

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Сообщение от L-ana64110; 1650831 "
Screaming gallerista name without a court decision on his culpability , even foolish , but criminal .

Here is this just stupid.
No you are not required " to cry " , and warned his colleagues , I think you would have done and clever , and noble .
You can do it and gently : " there were serious problems with this gallery , for example , or return the money was delayed for a year "and all .
There are no " court decisions and do not want you about your experience with these people with their colleagues to share the truth telling , for this court is not required .

L-ana64110 30.05.2011 14:01

COP!
Do not have to teach me!
:D>

How do you decide what you can teach me and something advise?
:D> :D> :D>


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