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allexx 18.11.2008 18:25

Expertise in Kiev (Ukraine)
 
Dear friends. Can you please tell where in Kiev (or Ukraine) can be made of chemical-technological expertise of painting? Contact the Kiev Institute of Restoration, but they impose complex, with a view of their "art critic", they say, you never know whose opinion you "sew" to our technological expertise.

In my case, I, as a first step, it is important comprehensive technological expertise.

And another question: who will advise the expert in Kiev (Ukraine) on Russian painting late 19-early 20 th century, whose opinion you trust?

Thank you!

Евгений 18.11.2008 18:29

allexx, Yes you are here on the forum, show here and there are experts, and critics ..
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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111026)
whose opinion you trust?

Only a ...

allexx 18.11.2008 18:30

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 111046)
allexx, Yes you are here on the forum, show here and there are experts, and critics ..

Only myself ...

Eugene, examination of the photo? I think this is not the right first step:)

uriart 18.11.2008 18:33

Very right move!
If the work is questionable, since each Validating see her and express their opinions.
And also true.
A comprehensive examination is not very expensive (about Moscow!) Is in Kiev. In Kiev there are enough sensible experts.
What kind of work you do? Ukrainian or Russian author?

Евгений 18.11.2008 18:36

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111056)
I think this is not the correct first step

No, if you're not a professional art dealer, this is the right thing .. on the forum a lot of experienced kollektsionerov.Fotografiyu can be removed (the message) within two days, or publish in your profile, and here give a simple link (if your picture glow on Online news will not).

allexx 18.11.2008 18:38

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 111066)
It is even the right move!
If the work is questionable, since each Validating see her and express their opinions.
And also true.
A comprehensive examination is not very expensive (about Moscow!) Is in Kiev. In Kiev there are enough sensible experts.
What kind of work you do? Ukrainian or Russian author?

Presumably, Russian.

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 111076)
No, if you are not a professional art dealer, this is the right thing .. on the forum a lot of experienced kollektsionerov.Fotografiyu can be removed (the message) within two days, or publish in your profile, and here give a simple reference (if your picture glow on the news online will not).

You know, I would have preferred still to early to make a technological review. If forgery - do not want to shame:) I do not know anyone in Ukraine?

Евгений 18.11.2008 18:43

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111086)
Do not know anyone in Ukraine?

Do not hurry, there's a lot to Ukraine come ... soon to answer ..
uriart,-your countryman.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.11.2008 18:57

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111086)
If forgery - do not want to disgrace

And what's wrong with that? Counterfeiting facing each of their market a lot.
You show here-no you "shame" will not.

allexx 18.11.2008 19:14

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 111116)
What's wrong with that? Counterfeiting facing each of their market a lot.
You show here-no you "shame" will not.

Certainly:) Just to start would like to receive an answer to your question:)

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Сообщение от Eugene;
Only myself ...

You are a hundred times right! That's why I'm looking for that looking for: D

uriart 18.11.2008 20:45

allexx,
If there is a desire can send me a photo on mail uri49@rambler.ru

SergeiSK 18.11.2008 21:39

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111086)
If forgery - do not want to disgrace

Here, in contrast to www.forumuuu.ru no you will not disgrace, and give good advice. Save time, money and nerves:) Well there you hang a picture, but not here. So do not hesitate to show it here.

allexx 18.11.2008 22:05

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 111286)
Here, in contrast to www.forumuuu.ru no you will not disgrace, and give good advice. Save time, money and nerves:) Well there you hang a picture, but not here. So do not hesitate to show it here.

Sergey, this is another picture, believe me: D (information on the Internet spreads rapidly!: P)

However, you do want to get an answer on the merits.

Altim 19.11.2008 13:26

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111026)
Dear friends. Can you please tell where in Kiev (or Ukraine) can be made of chemical-technological expertise of painting? Contact the Kiev Institute of Restoration, but they impose complex, with a view of their "art critic", they say, you never know whose opinion you "sew" to our technological expertise.

In my case, I, as a first step, it is important comprehensive technological expertise.

And another question: who will advise the expert in Kiev (Ukraine) on Russian painting late 19-early 20 th century, whose opinion you trust?

Thank you!

The names of the major players in the market in Kiev experts:
1. Vakulenko (Russian Museum)
2. Demidchuk-Demchuk (National Museum)
3. Bray (independent he antiquary)
4. Tsytovich (independent)
5. Bychkov (Restoration Center)
6. Romashchenko (independent)
7. Kravchenko (Restoration Center provides an independent view)
8. Gorbachev (independent, specialist on early avant-garde)

Chemical analysis of the case only in the Restoration Center. Chemist two - and Lugina Raspopin. Lugina older and more authoritative.
Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Somebody might have forgotten, but only because part of these "forgotten" in commerce painting slightly.

At the regional schools have specialists in the field: zakarpattsev "experts" in Uzhgorod, on odessite (South-Russian school) is the one in Odessa Council asked Lviv has its authorities, etc.

Specializations strict as such no one. Taken for all practical. No generally accepted best. Expensive items should show more, the benefit is relatively inexpensive. Starting, perhaps, one should Vakulenko, because he ðóñêèé Art Museum director and chief judge of several auctions. Depending on his views to proceed.

allexx 19.11.2008 14:27

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 111916)
Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Yes, but I need official tehekspertiza yet and all. As a basis for interpretation. And I say, write at once - a fake or original and will make data tehekspertizy. Just a third-party interpretation of technical analysis has not really bothered about me, I would like to start to understand himself. Especially because, as I understood, the details of my expertise to provide no intention - photo there, and so on, just text.

Евгений 19.11.2008 15:44

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 111916)
To begin, perhaps, one should Vakulenko, because he ðóñêèé Art Museum director and chief judge of several auctions.

As it happens, on Yablonska (recently discussed), he's right?


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