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iside 06.10.2010 10:01

Learn to spin up, gentlemen!
 
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Some time ago I subscribed to the site ARTDAILY I like their excellent photo reports, and news is very fresh. Now has a feed, and what was my surprise when the "best pictures" I saw the Russian (?) Artist, which has never been heard or seen, but presented in a format it looks like a star. Local artist on the note. ;) Urgently looking photographer Sergei Ilnitskiy and the farther you guessed it ... :D

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Russian artist Elena Golden poses next to a picture during a presentation in Moscow, 5 October 2010. Painting Gold was created with paint of a 14-carat gold, 140 x 300 cm This is a great picture of the gold in the world. (photo Sergey Ilnitsky)

PS looked online, but information about it is not

artcol 06.10.2010 10:29

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1310501)
Some time ago I subscribed to the site ARTDAILY I like their excellent photo reports, and news is Fresh. Now has a feed, and what was my surprise when the "best pictures" I saw the Russian (?) Artist, which has never been heard or seen, but presented in a format it looks like a star. Local artist on the note. ;) Urgently looking photographer Sergei Ilnitskiy and the farther you guessed it ... :D

Photos restart, hopefully no problems with copyright law.

Russian artist Elena Golden poses next to a picture during a presentation in Moscow, 5 October 2010. Painting Gold was created with paint of a 14-carat gold, 140 x 300 cm This is a great picture of the gold in the world. (photo Sergey Ilnitsky)

PS looked online, but information about it is not

Excellent addition to the toilet made of gold.

iside 06.10.2010 10:44

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Сообщение от "artcol (Сообщение 1310541)
A great addition to the toilet made of gold.

artcol do not have the gloomy mood, we should be glad for the novice to succeed in PR local artists!
They are sharks, and we are golden rough picture!
:p

artcol 06.10.2010 10:52

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1310571)
artcol do not have the gloomy mood, we should be glad for the novice to succeed in PR local artists! They are sharks, and we are golden rough picture! :p

That you, the mood That's it! Today the right to take all the good :)

Gentlemen's collection
well etc. etc.

As said the old boatswain - main thing - that shone! :D

Altim 06.10.2010 11:25

Gold was .. but it was someone from the modern masters of art?
I give the idea, if that.

Евгений 06.10.2010 11:50

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Сообщение от Altim; 1310621"
Gold was .. but it was someone from the modern masters of art? I give an idea if that

Already in the collections there ..
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Сообщение от Eugene; 851901"
(B. Rynska)
... It was in London. Invited us to dinner to a collector of contemporary art. And right at the doorstep, he led us to inspect their purchase. Zakoryuki passed, and the damn spot. And finally the host, beaming with pride for their cultural values, leads us to the finale: a silver tripod, which neatly coiled coiled sausage. Also silver. Sausage - not in the sense of pepperoni or mortadella, and human feces, morning chair, very naturally recreated from the precious metal.
And the owner, who looked absolutely normal rich, tenacious kind of guy shit pop around the wings and enthusiastically paints, which, it turns out, the author of this masterpiece Fibber: to give the artifact a natural brown shade, urinated on the faeces. And the result of oxidation - enthusiastically continued to master - and there was the effect of authenticity!
In Moscow, reported on a magical dinner in the company of secular activists. At least three of them became uncomfortable for me. Look at each other, watched with regret: I mean, this work should be viewed in the context ...
Ah, love me all these collectors contexts. They have their dao - pristine and us Lohamei not available. Perhaps, this work seems to you unattractive - people say, included in the art, but it has an investment value .....


NATA NOVA 06.10.2010 12:55

And even know how to do it!
tell us? (Easier as dirt! "It's not even tinsel, other technology)
And thanks for the post!

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1310571)
These sharks, and we are golden rough picture!
__________________

Terrible, of course, the sight .. In this round I of the shark, there is at least informative note ..
And at the whole picture pixels nezvatilo-such a huge?
Gold is good in moderation (and vzhizni, and in art)

Konstantin 06.10.2010 13:33

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1310501)
what was my surprise when the "best pictures" I saw the Russian (?) Artist,

Explain one of these two pictures is the best?
Best in what?

Кирилл Сызранский 06.10.2010 14:44

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And in the Middle East, gold cover their favorite Mercedes.
:D

Евгений 06.10.2010 14:45

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1310591)
As said the old boatswain - main thing - that shone!"

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Сообщение от iside; 1310501"
Learn to spin up, gentlemen!

All right, this is the foundation of contemporary art ..

Maxim Kantor (artist, writer) from the article "Vendors vacuum"
 ".. Progress changed all that. The term" product "is replaced by" project. "Project - it's Compound product, it is the combined efforts of the gallery, advertising, curator, artist, and the actual work of the artist occupies a negligible portion. First of distinguished paintings, but not interested in the personality of the author, selling specific products, rather than names. Italian Renaissance little interest to the Creator - the attention focused on his creations. In modern times the identity of the artist, his social role, the degree of fashionableness important works, the market in a hurry to inform the client what brand Artist prefers clothes that drink, where he spent a vacation, they do they differ, and the product - quite similar ...
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Compound product that has to do art market is still referred to as spiritual, but the spiritual content of the market has moved from a product in the field of management.
Winning the third estate was in need of galleries, explaining to customers why this picture to buy. Lorenzo the Magnificent in the services gallerist is not needed, he realized that he needed, but Jourdain, who wants to be like Lorenzo the Magnificent, the gallery is required. Subsequently, the gallery owners have pressed the curators - the time has come mechanization, mass nature of artistic activity, and it took checkers, sorting feature streams. Curator - this is not the seller, but marketing manager.
Characteristically, the profession of gallerist that it retained just in art arose another mediator. Today's market increases the number of intermediaries in the sale of goods is inversely proportional to the labor expended to manufacture the product.
Work of the artist itself is worth nothing, but going through the proper authorities (opinion of galleries, curators, recommendations, certificates, museums), it becomes a commodity. And each of the instances has a material interest and, consequently, increases the commodity price of the product. Since coats sewn Serbian wage workers, increasing commodity costs, if his being accomplished in Hungary, sewn to it an English label, and sell in Russia. Labor process usually takes a minute: a stick to beat, to be photographed naked, paint the box. However, related activities (organization and presentation of exhibitions, advertising, media, transportation, insurance, directories, movies, etc.) requires a lot of money and the cost of this process is included in the total price of the product.
Accordingly, the profit in relation to the cost of labor increases in times: contemporary art, which produces an inanimate product, much more expensive than the previous art, which vozilos with the process of animation works. Of course, profit from art depends entirely on the management. Declared the art of the symbol of free expression, the curator of the right to expect that civilization (which proclaims the freedom of its primary purpose) well a symbol of pay. Profession curator became much more important to art than the artist's work - just as the activities of the general manager of the oil company is more important to business than the worker standing at the pump ... "
http://www.expert.ru/printissues/exp...davcy_vakuuma/

iside 06.10.2010 15:12

Eugene,
I read Rynsku, which, incidentally, is neither an art nor the artist or art dealer, but simply a person express their opinion in a particular manner, which allows her to gather more audience and earn money for their articles. Ie in that it does not differ from that of art itself, which is so fun. Techniques she uses the same.
Had time to read and Cantor, which I like very much, actually. :)
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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1311081)
That's right, is the foundation of modern art

I believe that, unfortunately, is the only form of conduct in which you can today to achieve at least some visibility. And there really a god send.

I met this summer with one well-known European art critic and curator, an amazing person, such things porasskazyval ... :eek:
The bottom line is that now let at least will be a new Picasso or even better than Picasso is no guarantee that it will be sold, not the fact that he will be exposed, not a fact about him that someone would write at all. I think why is no longer necessary to continue ;)

So in this thread I do not admire or gold picture or an artist, such thousands of people every day there - I only gave this case a note of local artists. Honestly, did so with intent :D "Suddenly one of them will become famous and then I'll say: 'Oh, yes, I go with this freak 20 years ago on the forum ArtInvestment swear! :D

Евгений 06.10.2010 15:19

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1311121)
Ie in that it does not differ from that of art itself, which is so fun. Techniques she uses the same.

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1311121)
gather more audience and earn money for their articles.

All right, mihanizm PR almost one to one ... And the goal is maximum profit ...

Konstantin 06.10.2010 15:22

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1311121)
So in this thread I do not admire either golden painting or artist, these thousands of people every day there - I only gave this case a note of local artists.

So in fact there was a PR at the opening of the boutique, rather than the presentation pattern. And glamorous coterie went news. Council for artists in what? That they mate with the glamorous characters? If it were not there these Katya Lel and Len Lenin nobody (from the glamorous press) about the gold now would not have written it. That the Golden is such an artist or something?
With the same success could invite carpenter Gold with a gold stool.

Евгений 06.10.2010 15:28

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1311141)
might as well have invited a carpenter Gold with a gold stool.

Constantine, and it already was, just not a carpenter, and Ksenia Sobchak and Andrei Bartenevym remember project Footwear K. Sobchak?

Евгений 06.10.2010 15:42

iside, you have given yourself a link ...

"The writer Lena Lenin introduced another" golden PR-project "- a jewelry store on the Garden Ring was presented pictures painted with pure gold ..."


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