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Eriksson 15.11.2008 22:05

Curious portrait Bukowskis in Stockholm
 
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Dear Sirs
I understand that many of you - professional isskustvovedy and collectors. Read Your forum is nothing but sheer pleasure - how nice that is gathered literate, intelligent people do not use the word "afftor" (Fu, as many wince!). Notes on the forum - just a real school for the novice collector, despite the fact that often you go to the "mezhdusoboychik" which, of course, is not strange among acquaintances.

I have here a question. In the autumn auctions "Bukowskis" in Stockholm may be a very interesting portrait. The picture is described as "portrait of a woman, an unknown Russian artist, 17-18 centuries".

I'm having some thoughts about this film, but before they have to share, I would like to know professionally mnenie.Obraschatsya on "Gelos" do not want to - from them except the Soviet-type personal boorishness not wait for.

At the auction site that is where the portrait is given the highest number of large fragments, as many as 7 pieces in a row - on any picture is no longer checked. Somehow, these Swedes were guided, probably. Do you think?
Auctions number 1161.
http://bukowskis.se/cgi-bin/show.cgi...amp;session =#
Thank you in advance for any response!

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2008 22:14

By date.
I realized that the auction calls "the 1800th year." Ie our-XIX century.

Eriksson 15.11.2008 22:19

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 105756)
According to date.
I realized that the auction calls "the 1800th year." Ie our in-XIX.

Swedes "1800" - is a 18 century, ie from 1701 to 1799 years. In the catalog to describe the picture is "Year 1700-1800"

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2008 22:25

You ought to know, you-Ericsson.

Eriksson 15.11.2008 22:31

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 105776)
You know better, you-Ericsson.

Yeah! I live here read it 20 years ...: rolleyes:

SAH 15.11.2008 22:32

Why is this picture of Russian?

Eriksson 15.11.2008 22:38

So it is written. I think they do not take from the ceiling ...

Wladzislaw 15.11.2008 23:07

At Anna Ioannovna somewhat similar.

Самвел 15.11.2008 23:17

I think they will wait for this issue, and probably come up with for this monstrous bike.

Eriksson 15.11.2008 23:24

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 105846)
At Anna Ioannovna little similar.

Well, finally!
Thanks, Vlad!
I told him.
I have this idea also came to mind. Immediately write mail charge of Russian art at the Superintendent Bukovskis, her name is Erica Fryukstrem. The answer was this: "resemblance to Anna Romanov clear, our experts have a lot of discussions and divergent views, who can be the author of the picture. In addition, documentary evidence, who is depicted in the portrait is not, and therefore it is -" Portrait of a Woman, unknown Russian artist "and so on.."
Nothing more has not been attained.

So, gentlemen, good! The question is:
Who could write Anna Ioannovna?

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2008 04:07

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 105876)
Who could write Anna Ioannovna?

Could? Anybody visiting from Western artists, for example.
But writing exactly Louis Caravaque. His disciples could, I. Vishnyakov, for example.
But the portrait of the Empress on her head must be something.
Yes, and manner of writing submitted to the portrait of late, not Lane. floor. 18 th century.

ottenki_serogo 16.11.2008 11:07

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In my opinion, the similarity of the conditional. compare, for example eye color.

Eriksson 16.11.2008 11:13

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106066)
Could? Anybody visiting from Western artists, for example.
But writing exactly Louis Caravaque. His disciples could, I. Vishnyakov, for example.
But the portrait of the Empress on her head must be something.
Yes, and manner of writing submitted to the portrait of late, not Lane. floor. 18 th of.

At the expense menery letters do not agree - this is clearly not 19 century. Look at the hand of the ladies ... too simple letter. Yes, and dark brown background suspiciously resembles the traditions of Russian parsuna. About headdress (crown you probably have a view?) As it is possible to argue. And Caravaque and a Vishnyakova full portrait without crowns. Princess and the Princes wore pearls in her hair - as "our" clients. At the same Caravaque Catherine is the first general in the dressing, without regalia. But Caravaque style of this portrait, I think, not like. Not such a "oak" and taut. And often Vishnyakova background something filled. Although I do not know. I will look for more ...

fross 16.11.2008 11:25

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A maid of honor will not work:)?
Countess Catherine Andreyevna Chernyshev (1715-1779), née Countess Ushakova - maid of honor of the Empress Anna Ioannovna

Wladzislaw 16.11.2008 21:15

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 106196)
A maid of honor will not work:)?
Countess Catherine Andreyevna Chernyshev (1715-1779), née Countess Ushakova - maid of honor of the Empress Anna Ioannovna

She urozhdnennaya countess Ushakov, just Ushakov.


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