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annas 28.09.2010 11:20

Question Vase
 
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Distinguished experts in the existence of the add on this forum - I do not doubt, please help! Here is a vase here want to buy in America. The seller claims that it was done in France in 1930 or 1940?? Documentary evidence and the facts speak about it he does not. Dotorgovalsya I'm up to 4000 m, a large vase and the whole, I like it. So ... what do you think? reasonable buying this for yourself, or a vase is not so old? can be any or all the details of which I, as a layman, did not notice? Thank you in advance and responded not indifferent.

uriart 28.09.2010 12:00

annas, such vases were made in France in the third quarter and in the late 19 th century. They put a stamp of Sevres porcelain factory at Sevres, and issued.
Judging by this picture to understand anything specific to your vase is difficult. Almost impossible. Perhaps the seller and the rights that says the 40-ies of the 20 th century.
And another point. Vases are made of porcelain and earthenware.
If your vase of earthenware, it is expensive.
For china, you can pay that kind of money.

reriks 28.09.2010 12:22

Vase of course beautiful but 4t.d.
it does not stoit.Po many reasons.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.09.2010 12:24

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Сообщение от reriks (Сообщение 1297992)
For many reasons.

Well, for example?

annas 28.09.2010 12:36

Simply forgot to specify the size of the vase 140 centimeters.

reriks 28.09.2010 12:47

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1298012)
Well, for example?
You can buy the same cheaper?

Well you can buy cheaper or not, I don `t know but I think the Chinese can not do now such a little worse.
Personally, I seen on this photo shpiatr painted gold paint. And in France since the late 19 th po40g .. was the mass production of all hours vases figurines with shpiatra things in common "consumer goods" and of special value such things are not present in my vzglyad.Vot for example the first reason.
 :)

Кирилл Сызранский 28.09.2010 12:52

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Сообщение от reriks (Сообщение 1298072)
Personally, I seen in this photo shpiatr painted gold paint.

Shpiatr on the basis of such a mass would not stand.

reriks 28.09.2010 13:00

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1298082)
Shpiatr on the basis of such a mass would not stand.

I think shpiatr just stand still and more not to be confused with silumin. (By the way, and it should not be ruled out)

Photo bottom to see.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.09.2010 13:24

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Сообщение от reriks (Сообщение 1298122)
I think shpiatr just stand still and more not to be confused with silumin. (By the way, and it should not be ruled out)

I know perfectly well what shpiatr.
:D

reriks 28.09.2010 13:58

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1298162)
I know perfectly well what shpiatr.
:D

And what do you this?
:D

Кирилл Сызранский 28.09.2010 14:04

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Сообщение от reriks (Сообщение 1298281)
"And what is it?
:D


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Shpiatr - is zinc and various zinc alloys used in the art industry first third of the XIX-XX century as a replacement for bronze.


Enough?

uriart 28.09.2010 14:09

reriks, shpiatr - an imitation of bronze.
An alloy of copper, zinc, tin, and some other stuff.
Which breaks down and crumbles at the first serious pressure.
Maybe I messed up with the components of the alloy
Although probably no one really knows.
Here's the view from the forum:
material that is used as a substitute for bronze in the products of small plastic, and is an alloy of zinc with some more additives.

reriks 28.09.2010 14:19

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1298312)
reriks, shpiatr - an imitation of bronze.
An alloy of copper, zinc, tin, and some other stuff.
Which breaks down and crumbles at the first serious pressure.
Maybe I messed up with the components of the alloy
Although probably no one really knows.
Here's the view from the forum:
material that is used as a substitute for bronze in the products of small plastic, and is an alloy of zinc with some more additives.

Yes, apparently based on zinc. And as a complement to cram anything in there.
But though the special strength and he has no weight but the vase think he is quite able to vyderzhat.Osnovanie way can be anything else usilino inside.

annas 28.09.2010 15:29

Phoned the seller, he argues that this BRONZE AND PORCELAIN. And, when I saw her, am inclined to believe that he is not disingenuous. Thank you very much for your participation, but still, this vase can be modern? and in relation to China? they make such? I was worrying too much gilding fresh - or I'm on the water through each?

Кирилл Сызранский 28.09.2010 15:38

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Сообщение от annas (Сообщение 1298462)
I am worrying too much gilding fresh - or I'm on the water through each?

So it is not the XIX century.

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Сообщение от annas (Сообщение 1297832)
The seller claims that it was done in France in 1930 or 1940??

And what should happen with gold for those 70-80 years old?


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