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Прохожий 01.11.2008 12:34

Do not cut down the ax?
 
In yesterday's issue of the newspaper "Izvestia" published an article "The best antiques are doing in Moscow" - another journalistic masterpiece dedicated to the unmasking of unscrupulous antique dealers. The question arises, how much can stoke domestic antique market, using not too intelligent, avid for "fried" hacks? But the printed word has a great influence ... When, finally, antique dealers have their say? But not so pathetic, what was last year's weak-willed, almost illiterate scribble in "Kommerstante, published, moreover, with a note on the Rights of advertising? Here truly peaceful people sitting in the Confederation of antique and art dealers ... : confused:
Link to article:
http://izvestia.ru/investigation/article3122208/

iosif 01.11.2008 12:51

pedestrian,
It's time to engage in advertising and PR industry. It simple and not very expensive. But, apparently, until everyone all happy: (

uriart 01.11.2008 13:01

Thus hacks need to be hands pootrubit!

iosif 01.11.2008 13:02

uriart,
not. I also scribbler: (

Прохожий 01.11.2008 13:24

Scribbler scribblers alike. But as this shedevrovayatel write is not necessary - because of the art, and even more so about the fake - or good (ie, with knowledge of the problem), or leave it!

Кирилл Сызранский 01.11.2008 13:57

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...3355#post93355
Already some poobsuzhdali yesterday.
Merzskaya articles. From the "Izvestia" is not expected.

Сергеич 01.11.2008 14:15

You should not boil. The value of this article = 0 (zero). Think of yourself at least one article in the latest period, which is something for you influenced. And even more so in "Izvestia". Now I do not know niodnogo media which can be 100%trusted. Circulations all miserable, write rubbish. Even more surprised I was the one who will say that watches the news on TV.

And then I watched a live press konferetstsiyu Bush. Horror. Zadornov greatly embellishing the better. This nonsense with a clever kind not heard long ago. My son is 14 years, sat beside him and they kept asking: What do they say? What do they say? was not even funny.

Кирилл Сызранский 01.11.2008 14:27

"Izvestia" and read the newspaper difficult bydo attributed to the "yellow press".

Meister 01.11.2008 14:42

totally agree ... why drown the market is not quite truthful words ... everywhere there are problems ... and people. involved in contemporary art, to order such items should be ashamed.

Кирилл Сызранский 01.11.2008 14:57

Meister,
You think is a customized paper? I do not think so. Rather, the pursuit of "fried" from the life of the rich but dull.
"Because of his meanness happy humiliation high, the weaknesses of the mighty. When you open the squalor she voshischenii.On small, as we are, it is disgusting, as we are!"

Прохожий 01.11.2008 15:06

Cyril Syzransky, the fact that the newspaper "Izvestia" is not published with the support of the gallery "Triumph" (in contrast to the known black booklet) does not say that this article is not customized. In my opinion - a typical zakazuha, ongoing campaign to create a negative image antiquary. Simply issue Preobrazhensky - already forgotten, we must remind the world who is the most impudent impostors, and then, God forbid, somebody, instead of regular "herstni" by chance some sham gain from last time - there is a loss of profits. And in general, for as long as antiquarians and art dealers do not start a serious, carefully thought out, multi-action, which could counter these mud flows, nothing good will.

Meister 01.11.2008 15:11

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 93996)
Meister,
You think is a custom paper

remember who catalog fakes doing?

pedestrian, for a couple of minutes ahead))))

iosif 01.11.2008 15:12

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Сообщение от passers-94005
Cyril Syzransky, In general, until then, while antiquarians and art dealers do not start a serious, carefully thought out, multi-action, which could counter these mud flows, nothing good be.



pedestrian,
Absolutely agree. With only one addition: no action, and campaigns, and not a multi-stage, and permanent. PR-activities in this direction should be carried out continuously. As well as general promotion of the art world as an enjoyable and integral part of the life of every civilized man.

Vladimir 01.11.2008 15:57

I think that the article is not customized. Just genre. There is an axiom: the good news does not sell, complacently article readers are not interested, you all blame and no one to praise. In other words, the audience "Programs and maximum" will always be higher than the channel "Culture". It's not that good or bad. Just because life is arranged in a specific historical juncture. Criticism is always interesting to praise.

Ordered price article should be in someone's interests. Moreover, the hint should be "transparent". Here, believe me, do not. I assure you that to build a logical chain between the problem of forgeries (criticizing antique market) and an appeal to buy contemporary art as free from fakes readers "news" is not built. On this "greed" is known only to professional players art market, which articles are not proshibesh. And the fact that people post articles, become more sensitive to security issues - what's wrong with that? Liability dealers have nothing to fear. On the contrary, someone's reputation above, and in the black, is not it?

Meister 01.11.2008 16:12

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 94056)
On the contrary, who have a reputation above, and in the black, is not it?

not sure ... it's pretty much discourages people who are thinking about undertaking something to buy. Understand who is normal and who is not, few will. Most simply another channel to send money.


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