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Art_Lyss 30.10.2008 04:29

Price blood dealer, or a percentage of sales
 
One galeristka told me: Interest paid only once.
But, I would add that the price of such a board-damaged relationship with the dealer. Chrevotochinka heart and memory. Belonging to the category of speculators.
I unfastened the dealer tempted percentage, if 2nd time to sell the painting to its customers. At the 3rd - a donation. Although the dealer and doing nothing. But, he brought new people, and causes more-in atmosphere of mutual respect, honesty and circumscribed.
Generally, it seems that the height of interest depends on the actions of special operations. When scale loyal to pay and 50%. Commission is now taking 10 to 30%. Thanks for inactivity dealer-5%or meadow.
Who has what was the experience?
What do gallery owners and dealers?
What do artists?

Евгений 30.10.2008 07:39

Art_Lyss, Cocoa you krovozhadnyy.S artists (and young and well-deserved) worked 15 years (1990, 2004), have always had excellent relations, not once problems have been encountered .. work to the gallery took on the Commission ( sell for as much as he could to sell), the artist always received the agreed amount.
The main buyers were: the diplomatic corps and their guests.
Sometimes the phone would ask the artist, usually given without conditions .. .. they are called, agreed, perhaps that is bought, but take with the artist%is ridiculous, to help the main task.
Typically buyers, artists always appreciate it ..
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Сообщение от Art_Lyss (Сообщение 91246)
percentage height depends on the actions of special operations

All this is far from reality, "special operation" .. well, you like during the war, everything is much easier ..
If you are looking for a normal artist, gallery, art dealer's normal (it's not easy, especially for a beginner), do not forget the artists in a thousand times more than the galleries and art dealers.
Gallery owner, picked up work on a commission that looked like to buyers, and what is not.
With this in mind, you work with the artist, to discuss what and how to write more (story, color, size, etc..), Is a simple creative process, so work around the world, the main thing is not to reinvent the wheel .. Technologies paintings (modern writers) is much You can write a whole book, and (for a discussion%), usually the last place ..
Sale of paintings, which bring the artist's heirs (after the artist's death), differs fundamentally, but how about this some other time.

Art_Lyss 30.10.2008 15:59

Eugene, not, not bloodthirsty. Merciful. It is an indication of my respect for the work of gallery owners, art business, promote blood and sweat shed (est. not literally). Complicated matter, and the money given is not in vain, as some opportunist different suits.
However, one thing, a gallery owner, and another thing-dealer, the third agent. The difference is. Rather, it is true in Western structures.
Work for interest-case agent, who must dorosti to the rank of gallery owners.
And the heirs is yes ... more ... agree.

Евгений 30.10.2008 22:18

Art_Lyss, you have great pictures (in profile) http://forum.artinvestment.ru/album.php?albumid=295
, business card, immediately recognized .. boy, that he began to write ..
Good luck on the forum, it is nice when talented people come here ..

iosif 30.10.2008 22:26

about blood Dealer
 
For some reason I just now saw the title of the topic. I remembered the following story.
During one dispute with the artist, we have each other in turn poobizhalis. Later still, my point of view won, but in redemption I ordered him now "promoter, drinking the blood of an unknown artist."
When it was written, and show.

Allena 31.10.2008 15:09

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 92036)
Art_Lyss, paintings you have excellent (in profile)

Beauty is! The mood of the paintings - rare in these times! Where is the aggression? Where is longing and dislocation? Where so dear to the heart of contemporary artists misanthropy? Thank you, ART_Lyss, great! The amazing thing! If there is, Put, please have your work.

Евгений 31.10.2008 20:23

Вложений: 1
Allena, Andrei Lysenko ... a talented artist and just a good man ..
Site http://lyssenko.ru/
For Alena and Vines:
Paris street.
30-40.h-m.2005g.

Art_Lyss 31.10.2008 21:45

Eugene, thank you, as per the recommendation of this excellent site and for your support. Yes, we love the "Russian Impressionism" and "socialist realism" - that is Rossiyskuyu realistic painting 20th century.
Rot Front!

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Allena, My dear komrad
Eugene - http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/artss/ pointed out the right path to my work and the dynasty. However, there are no new jobs yet. Since site is in the process redesign and upgrade. Thank you for your kind words!

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iosif, Oh, diplomatichnvy way out of the situation, worthy patron. As in any business, and this raises a lot of things. The solution-all of Jung-artist sketched those feelings, and gallery owners got the pleasure of co-creation, execution of the order. And, hopefully, successful buduyuschego pictures. Cheers! The consensus, as the Мишаня Gorby.

Самвел 31.10.2008 22:19

Art_Lyss looked at your work. In the words of S Tyukhtin, \ commercially tasty \, for the average eye.

Art_Lyss 31.10.2008 22:38

Samvel, I think that discussion and criticism of the user experience should be left to Artlib.ru, etc. For our common good.
Note, dear, there is no self-promotion. And for help, I thank the people is wrong.

Самвел 31.10.2008 22:48

Here forum, just say flattering, as if ready to critique.

Art_Lyss 01.11.2008 01:18

Samvel, Yes. Thank you for a fair answer. To be honest, I do not want this deal of his work in general. I then introduced a brand-new-friends, "prescribed" - and I discuss topics that interest art-Investment. And only. You good luck.

Евгений 01.11.2008 07:32

Samvel, Andrei often at his blog raised questions of investment in art, many people commented, there is an interesting thought, not only artists, but also the bankers, entrepreneurs ... But this is the main theme of the site ARTinvestment.RU .. and the opinion of the person with V. Maslovka (town artists) http://maslovka.org/ very interesting to listen.
One representative already Stozharau Alexander, (wrote excellent posts), now two.
And soon it will be a third ... And this is only for the benefit of our forum, listen to people who have lived in such a historic place. I am personally interested in, I think, and other visitors and forum too.

Самвел 01.11.2008 12:34

I just wanted to say that here on the forum, you can certainly make a self-promotion, I have nothing against it, but they should know that this will not only help, but can hurt, especially to the beginner. I am also a beginner, and when the first did not know how you to use, hastened and made many mistakes, for promotion, or advertising of the artist. Only at the end of understand why it was necessary to start. Well as they say learn from the mistakes, the more it is their error, and therefore more effective.

iosif 01.11.2008 12:57

Samvel, then, as I realized there was a tiny misunderstanding. Art Fox does not own trumpet, because did not spread to the forum of their works. Accordingly, do not expect any praise, nor, especially, criticism:)


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