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sant1823 14.06.2010 13:13

Attribution object silver with enamel
 
Вложений: 4
Please antiques experts, help assess the authenticity of the subject. If it is possible for the photo - who, when it was made and whether the value? Ryazan. Thanks!

раскатов 14.06.2010 13:20

Hallmarks: 88 samples of "female head in the right head-dress and codes of Moscow assay control wizard" DF. Russia, Moscow, workshop Fedor Rückert, gold and silversmith, prominent enamel, 1908-1917gg. Feodor Rückert worked for Faberge firm, O. Kurlyukova, I. Marshak. The subject is made in the difficult technique of multicolor painted enamels on filigree with subtle color transitions from one color to another, in the color scheme typical of Fedor Rückert.
On the authenticity do not judge.

sant1823 14.06.2010 14:09

enamel
 
Spasibr you very much! And do not advise, how do you know about the authenticity or get an expert opinion? Where to go and how to know the approximate value of the subject??

redbor 14.06.2010 14:57

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Сообщение от rolls (Сообщение 1148282)
Hallmarks: 88 samples of "female head in the right head-dress and codes of Moscow assay control wizard" DF. Russia, Moscow, workshop Fedor Rückert, ...

And why Moscow trial?
Do not shop Ryukkerta in St. Petersburg was?

Кирилл Сызранский 14.06.2010 15:21

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 1148602)
Can not Ryukkerta workshop in St. Petersburg is home?

 
Ryukkert worked for the Moscow branch of the company in 1887 - 1917 years.

Металлист 14.06.2010 15:37

Indeed, the workshop Ryukkerta was in St. Petersburg,
hence the objects they made there and make their way.
 Where they are - another question.
 IMHO - this is a remake.

sergejnowo 14.06.2010 15:52

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Сообщение от Metalist (Сообщение 1148692)
IMHO - this is a remake

I will not try to say, photographs, remake or not.
But the issue is much broader and deeper than many think.
Who cares in general for Fedor Ryukkerta:
http://ruckert.narod.ru/index.htm
and for the hallmarks here (also in general):
http://ruckert.narod.ru/p286.htm

Кирилл Сызранский 14.06.2010 15:59

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Сообщение от Metalist (Сообщение 1148692)
Indeed, the workshop Ryukkerta was in St. Petersburg,
hence the objects they made there and make their way.

In recent years, the life of FI Ryukkert lived in Moscow for Vorontsovskaya street 23, in Moscow as he died, was buried at the cemetery.

redbor 14.06.2010 16:54

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Сообщение от rolls (Сообщение 1148282)
Hallmarks: 88 samples of" female head in the right head-dress "

I beg your pardon, but the woman's head looks not right, and left?
Then, this is another period

uriart 14.06.2010 18:05

sant1823, leftist at 101%!

раскатов 16.06.2010 10:05

Separately, on stamps, is the head in the headdress, it looks right.

redbor 16.06.2010 18:30

Вложений: 1
On all sides head:
  over the stigma of looking to the right, but the stamp itself and left.

Любознательный 26.06.2010 00:29

Цитата:

Сообщение от sant1823 (Сообщение 1148262)
Please, antiques experts, help assess the authenticity of the subject. If it is possible for the photo - who, when it was made and whether the value? Ryazan. Thanks !!!

The authenticity of the stigma attributed to - zero.
Made by young professionals who do not possess the due knowledge, which are beyond the knowledge of manufacturing techniques.
The thing is, of course, has value.
The biggest - for a foreigner in a doorway.
The truth Kasimov foreigners almost never.
I think so.

uriart 26.06.2010 06:33


Любознательный 26.06.2010 12:03

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1162782)
redbor,
curious, Although stigma and a very important moment in the attribution, I, first of all, look at the product and the metal surface.
As processed metal.
So bottom of the object said immediately about falshake.
A set of stamps - it is something!

As I understand it, you will be more interested in making money, not the authenticity of the product.
Simply we have different approaches.
I last slesaar-tool-5 grade, who received a second degree in this specialty.
Therefore, I see technological mistakes, but ...
Mindful of fair comment Metalist (no need to disclose errors to forgery did not sophisticated), I do not elaborately explain all the mistakes producers of this product.
If it is viewed in terms of art, it is a typical example of oil oil. Reloading decorations, leading to eclecticism. Excluding the period under which made forgery.
Again, a thing made of young professionals, and very good, but illiterate.


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