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lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 17:38

Babble wins or creates evil?
 
That's the last time a popular saying on the Internet:
Bablo triumphs over evil.
Some add and good)

Bubble and art - who's winning?

NATA NOVA 21.05.2010 20:14

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114472)
who's winning?

Friendship wins!

lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 20:51

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1114622)
wins FRIENDSHIP!

Friendship lamb and the wolf.

In principle, there are various examples of successful collaboration of money and talent. Probably not a lot of money would not have come up with some the highest standards. Although there are examples where, without money in creating something outstanding.

Yet today, more than ever, is of primary importance is the presence of Bablo.

NATA NOVA 21.05.2010 21:03

lyagushatnik, in the first place: Someone Bablo (and to whom - Money is)
I personally money is very kind I love and respect.
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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114652)
Although there are examples where and no means to create something outstanding.

Examples of in-studio!
In Catherine Belokur anyone and do not remember ..
Pirosmani ....

lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 21:14

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1114712)
lyagushatnik, in the first place: Someone Bablo (and to whom - Money is)
I personally money is very kind I love and respect.

Examples of in-studio!
In Catherine Belokur anyone and do not remember ..
Pirosmani ....

Van Gogh died in poverty - at once remembered and typed a query in a search engine and that's interesting given:

Why did Van Gogh died in poverty, and Picasso left a rich legacy? C of this question started a master-class ...

At the end of the conversation found the answer myself: Van Gogh created "to himself," and Picasso's needs contemporaries and painted pictures that were in demand and in high demand among the population. According to statistics, in the world of gifted people is four times more than the talented marketers.


Lots of examples!

Think of Cervantes, who was in jail several years for debt, except in captivity by the Moors served, although at the very end of life and found a wealthy patron, who provided him a dignified old age, but this is unlikely to greatly affect the fate of Don Quixote.

But I do not oppose the money in the art (for example, is impossible without them entirely architecture), I just put the question that today, in the end wins.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2010 21:22

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114732)
Van Gogh died in poverty

In fact, he committed suicide on July 29, 1890, fatally wounding a pistol and not from poverty ...

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114732)
scored a query in a search engine and that's interesting issued

Not very interesting you quoted. There are interesting ...

lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 21:29

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran, 1114751
Actually, he had committed suicide July 29, 1890, fatally wounding a pistol and not from poverty ...

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Not very interesting you quoted. There are interesting ...

1. Actually, I wrote: How he died
not: did he die
The difference is in the topic under discussion, agree.

2. He quoted that first caught. Like the question itself.

NATA NOVA 21.05.2010 21:32

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114732)
But I do not oppose the money in the art (for example, is impossible without them entirely Architecture),

Possible? Adobe house (even palaces) m On tysche years worth ..
Without money, even a very well could live .. (Only it's very expensive!)

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2010 21:33

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114732)
Think of Cervantes, who was in jail several years for debts, except in captivity by the Moors served, although at the very end of life and found a wealthy patron, who provided him a dignified old age, but is unlikely to greatly affect the fate of Don Quixote.

Also somehow inaccurate ...
Cervantes began to write very late for those years, only in 1604 is published in the first part of the novel "The Ingenious Hidalgo Don Quixote de la Mancha", which had huge success in Spain (in a few weeks out of print ed. And in the same year, the other 4 ) and abroad (Many translations).
But you that believe in nale 17 th century it was possible to enrich literary work?

NATA NOVA 21.05.2010 21:34

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114732)
Van Gogh died in poverty

He lived on just not in poverty! His bedroom is always separate from the workshop were!
(And I have a shop-in-vpalne and nothing, I walk funny!)

lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 21:54

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1114792)
is somehow inaccurate ...
Cervantes began to write very late for those years, only in 1604 is published in the first part of the novel "The Ingenious Hidalgo Don Quixote de la Mancha", which had huge success in Spain (in a few weeks out of print ed. And in the same year, the other 4 ) and abroad (Many translations).
But you that believe in nale 17 th century it was possible to enrich literary work?

1. Are you here inaccuracies grants, trying to correct me .:)
Don Quixote really began to write late.
But if even a little attempt to clarify the biography of Cervantes before you say Cervantes began to write very late for those years , it would have learned that Cervantes wrote much earlier, that part has not been preserved , but something has not gained popularity. Cervantes failed play with a bang in the theaters, etc. There are many other details (read).

2. In the 18 century, Byron was very surprised when his works began to bring him a profit. In the 17 century, I believe art to a lesser extent, on the money. Then I think people are more worried about another (capitalism is just entering its phase). On the other hand, while there were other moments that were dictating the conditions of existence.

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Anybody read Gogol's portrait? I think this is a work in the subject.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2010 22:14

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114842)
Cervantes wrote a lot before

Yes, of course, writing.
But 38 years old when he wrote the first thing, for the time-delayed.

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114842)
But if even slightly attempted to clarify the biography of Cervantes'

Gone refine biography of Cervantes.
:D

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114842)
Does anyone read Portrait of Gogol?

Portrait of Gogol? Must read ...

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114842)
I think this is a work in the subject.

Especially!

lyagushatnik 21.05.2010 22:36

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1114892)
Yes, of course, writing.
But 38 years old when he wrote the first thing, for the time-delayed.

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Gone refine biography of Cervantes.
:D

:)
Just his fate so formed.
Although I think most likely he wrote before, the only documented this we do not know. Like in his early youth he has intersected with Boccaccio.

Read it, very interesting and rich with all sorts of twists in his fate! (But do not know who to advise you about Cervantes)

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Portrait of Gogol be sure to read!
I even would have been interesting if given their opinions about this product.

LCR 21.05.2010 22:46

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114962)
It seems in his early youth he has intersected with Boccaccio.

No, sir, and without any desire to hurt: even in early childhood Cervantes, born in 1547, could not interfere with Boccaccio, who died in 1375.

It's like what to write, that Pelevin in his youth was friends with Karamzin :)

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2010 22:55

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Сообщение от lyagushatnik (Сообщение 1114962)
Portrait of Gogol must read!

Listen, lyagushatnik, here on the forum, each participant has a so-called profile which shows the minutes. The figures in this party. Here you are, as it says, born 3 July 1980 and you 29.
If you look at my profile, then the date of birth is not there, but given the age-51 years.

That's me to the fact that sometimes it is necessary and provide a little talk to anyone and anyone that advise.


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