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ранжер 06.05.2010 22:06

Three gouaches
 
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I ask professionals and amateurs, and Genosse publikum, etc. comment on the artistic and commercial value of these works, as well as plastic and color and the consistency of the author.

Dimensions:

36H48
36H48
45H60

The works were made 10 years ago, more precisely a third in 1999, the first and second - in the 2000th.

I would add that the pictures taken on high quality paper and the best in the world gouache paints, ie in the original nice matte velvety surface.

Тютчев 06.05.2010 22:35

I like the picture. All competently ...

To say anything more difficult. Not enough information about the artist (if available). Is missing information in general ...

What is this?

Черномашенцев Владимир 06.05.2010 22:41

Good design. But from the standpoint of painting for me boring.

таша 06.05.2010 23:04

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1079242)
Good design.

No, not design, but refers to stained glass.
There is a paradox in the works-tuned and, simultaneously, ambiguity, which makes them all the same art.
I like ... They are due to its geometrical should give the impression of coldness, a computer that, if, while they were alive.

ранжер 06.05.2010 23:30

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 1079222)
What is it?

In my opinion, this modern art

 But the thesis - to judge art work, you need to have information about the artist, strongly disagree. Let's enjoy the music, not overlooking the fact that its author Salieri (whose guilt, moreover, is not proven).
I think everyone has the example of the artist a better person and vice versa. Let's separate these concepts when evaluating works of art.


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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1079242)
But from the standpoint of painting for me boring.

Vladimir
Can you feel boring Mondrian, Aurelia Nemours and Peter Halle? I do not! You have shown yourself here fast trainee. Look closely, guashki not boring, and very even Major-gay, it is suitable for decoration of your homes.

Черномашенцев Владимир 06.05.2010 23:40

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079422)
Vladimir,
Can you feel boring Mondrian, Aurelia Nemours and Peter Halle? I do not! You have shown yourself here fast trainee. Look closely, guashki not boring, and very even Major-gay, it is suitable for decoration of your house.

Flatter, my friend! But still good. I was always confident that my great talent - high trainability. I have even higher mathematics at the institute only at the "ex." handed them anything in it without realizing.
   
To decorate my house will not fit - the format is too small. But for the registration of flats - why not? I wrote - a good [interior] design. However, show me, please, these gouaches in the original. Then, perhaps, I'll apologize and eat them before the public.

ранжер 07.05.2010 00:03

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1079482)
to decorate my house will not fit - the format is too small.

You know, the author has, and large formats, but they are much more expensive.

In general, it is ready to fulfill orders. For example, could in the same vein, do a portrait of your plant, factory or farm. Incidentally, these gouaches have names. The biggest is called "The pavilion in the woods", two others - "Pavilion in the Park" and "Pavilion on the water."

And about the design, I note that he lived in Paris, a remarkable Russian artist Harry Fife, it is no less remarkable writer Michael Herman called his work a monumental design. What I mean is that the Russian vocabulary has not kept pace hereby contemporary art.

Posav 07.05.2010 00:29

If such pictures were painted 100 years ago, one could say that when it was new, original. Now these songs are doing on the first course in the first half as the familiarization with the principles of formal composition. Why is now drawing is not clear. Is that if someone you need to fill a blank wall work in a certain style.

Черномашенцев Владимир 07.05.2010 00:37

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079602)
You know, the author has, and large formats, but they are much more expensive.
In general, it is ready to fulfill orders. For example, could in the same vein, do a portrait of your plant, factory or farm. .

Yes, I do not even know the prices of these small works. How would they have not shocked!
He writes that the author is ready to perform, but I'm not ready to place an order. I just phrases: "Ready to buy - do not scatter. Yes, and I have no plant or factory to portray.

If you judge a commercial component, then somewhere around 2-3 thousand rubles. Can be more expensive if sold in an expensive frame and an expensive gallery. But where to find a buyer with a lot of money, and a small apartment?

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1079672)
If such pictures were painted a hundred years ago ...

I have the same thing to say. If it was drawn a little earlier "Black Square, Malevich - honor and praise to the artist! And so have no way of gouache not help improve the experience. I'm bored ... Better go and look at Vermeer reproductions. Or I'll go to sleep.

Good night!

artcol 07.05.2010 00:39

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079162)
I ask professionals and amateurs, and Genosse publikum, etc. comment on the artistic and commercial value of these works, as well as plastic and color and the consistency of the author.

Uh-uh ... This is about what he would do? If the author of these works have just embarked on the path of art - it is probably worthwhile to support him morally. And if long?

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ранжер 07.05.2010 01:02

Volodya
 I'm sure that will not work and 10 years old and you, as a capable and quick learner person to change their opinion. We have before us a real painter, t.e.hudozhnik, able (feeling) how to put one color next to another in order to produce harmony. In terms of painting - this is an order of magnitude higher than Malevich and many, many, many others.
I think you have already mastered a concept - sense of color without which, in my opinion, there can be a painter.

Do not think that I am pursuing "their" artist. Not at all. This is exactly the case when an artist is much better person. Example with factories, houses, steamboats brought only as a fact that such orders are received this artist. That is, it is relatively high demand in the medium of the sensory and appreciating art.

klimvor 07.05.2010 02:50

Another "genius" painter

Тютчев 07.05.2010 06:45

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079422)
In my opinion, this modern art

 And now with the argument - to judge art work, you need to have information about the artist, strongly disagree. Let's enjoy the music, not overlooking the fact that its author Salieri (wine which, moreover, is not proven).


Let! I'm really against it? But you asked about anything other than "music"? O. ..

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079162)
... commercial importance of these works ...

And as can be seen on the commercial side of art without understanding its positioning in the market?

So I'm not trying to judge these gouache paintings based on information about the artist, and tried to answer that part of your post where you ask about the "commercial value" of these works.

This may well be more than once happened that good artists are not worth anything, but insignificant cost more money. This is a market. In addition, and was my question.

While at the same time, I believe that works of art need to buy if the fullest possible information about the artist. Of course, if we are not talking about cents.

artcol 07.05.2010 10:29

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079782)
Volodya
 I'm sure that will not work and 10 years old and you, as a capable and quick learner person to change their opinion. We have before us a real painter, t.e.hudozhnik, able (feeling) how to put one color next to another in order to produce harmony. In terms of painting - this is an order of magnitude higher than Malevich and many, many, many others.
I think that you have already mastered a concept - a sense of color, without which, in my opinion, can not be a painter.

Do not think that I am pursuing "their" artist. Not at all. This is exactly the case when an artist is much better person. Example with factories, houses, steamboats brought only as a fact that such orders are received this artist. That is, it is relatively high demand in the medium of the sensory and appreciating art.

An interesting prediction, but here is whether it will come true? In general, similar to the experimental constructivism soveyskogo spill years since the 70's. Sketches from the creative laboratory for Mr. manufacturing plant.

таша 07.05.2010 10:50

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1079672)
If such pictures were painted 100 years ago, we could say that if it was new originally. Now these songs are doing on the first course in the first half as the familiarization with the principles of formal composition. What is not clear now paint

Posav, in art is not always most important innovation. Well if the breakthrough into the unknown is present, but not all artists are innovators. I'm not saying that this artist a genius, but what is art and good quality, obviously. Symptoms otlichayushie these pictures on a variety of other work in this direction is, his face in there, there are still some unspeakable feelings (perhaps a certain "softness" and, as said ranzher, harmony), which attract. In art, all a matter of nuances, in my opinion.

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 1079602)
Generally speaking, he is ready to fulfill orders. For example, could in the same vein, do a portrait of your plant, factory or estate.

Although willingness to reproduce the reception did not speak in favor of the artist


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