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artman 27.04.2010 20:43

Please painting is attributed
 
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Is attributed please painting, canvas oil 120h80sm.staraya.I to tell my artist, Russian or European?

yaltarom 27.04.2010 21:44

The painting uses interesting nasyscheno.I preserved not bad

Amateur 27.04.2010 22:21

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Сообщение от artman (Сообщение 1059842)
and show by the artist, Russian or European?

Part of the signature hidden frame. Take a picture, see the signature entirely. Maybe you immediately and you'll know the answer to your question.

It seems that there is a dip of water on the audience.

artman 27.04.2010 22:34

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 1060452)
Part signatures hidden frame. Take a picture, see the signature entirely. Maybe you're right there and themselves know the answer to your question.

It seems that there is a dip of water on the audience.

Dear Amateur thank you for the tip, will try to disassemble, but it is good or flaw * is the slope of the plane of water on the audience *

Игорь Гурьев 27.04.2010 23:28

The painting is made in haste, mass-production method.
Type "Arbat" painting.

Hand filled with the artist, but not too much: it can only impress people who absolutely do not understand the painting.

Special qualities in the painting is not, as there is, however, and particularly the contrary.

Thus, painting for a restaurant or hotel.

yaltarom 27.04.2010 23:34

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1060762)
Painting done in haste, mass-production method.
Type "Arbat" painting.

Hand filled with the artist, but not too much: it can only impress people who absolutely do not understand the painting.

Special qualities in the painting is not, as there is, however, and particularly the contrary.

Thus, painting for a restaurant or hotel.

  I would not have been so categorical on kartine.Pokazyval her driving instructor Dymanovoy TT (hud.uchilische Simferopol), score high, multi-layered painting, well-prepared sheet, extract segments ... etc.

Игорь Гурьев 27.04.2010 23:40

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Сообщение от yaltarom (Сообщение 1060822)
multi-layered painting, well-prepared sheet, extract segments ... etc.

Duc rarely some oil paintings are not layered.
The layers here are thin, dry out during the day.

yaltarom 27.04.2010 23:56

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1060882)
Duc rare kind oil paintings is not layered.
The layers here are thin, dry out during the day.

 Amateur painter all forgive :):
  Dear Igor, with his little experience and method of writing I want to notice that the paint used presumably in this picture, give a complete drying up of about 5 days, for example:
Cadmium yellow (even the master class) with a thin layer of pure does not raise any lower layer of paint only 4 dnya.Van Dick and worse, and if mixed with tsynkom (whiting), you should wait about nedeli.Kartina written mixtures and In that time there was a blue number 405 (Classics) or whitewash 026, which dry in the bright light and the rate of 20, even in mixtures, about 30 hours.
Given the fact that the letter was carried on a walnut or linseed oil + one day okisanie layer.
   The painting is interesting, but the fact that the author is unknown .... Regiment provides only a fantasy to pricing <!--~ a ~-->, in this I agree with you completely

Игорь Гурьев 28.04.2010 01:40

I did not say that the picture painted in one day.

Dry well in the thin layers of the sun (so did Rubens, for example).

Well dries up, the next day you can continue.

Never any craquelure I have with this method of drying was not.

Amateur 28.04.2010 10:46

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Сообщение от artman (Сообщение 1060512)
Dear Amateur thank you for the tip, will try to disassemble, but it is good or flaw * is the slope of the plane of water on the spectator *

Have you ever seen that the water in a calm river or lake was to bend over? With such a slope as to your picture should be very rapid torrent, but it is not. Such an inclination - or the inability of the artist, or from bad photo quality, made with spatial distortions.

mark4445 28.04.2010 11:14

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 1061632)
Have you ever seen that the water in a calm river or lake was to bend over? With such a slope as to your picture should be very rapid torrent, but it is not. Such an inclination - or the inability of the artist, or from bad photo quality, made with spatial deformations.

If we assume that the direction of flow of the river is towards the horizon line, and ahead of what is the obstacle (the dam, a small break before the waterfall), it is calm water is understandable. And I think that the purely visual to the far edge of the obstacle will seem higher. Can an artist, too, so it seemed??

Amateur 28.04.2010 11:55

Distortion of reality in art, in particular, in painting, not only permissible, but inevitable, they occur in every work of art. Applied deliberately, these distortions often are key to understanding the thoughts, which he wanted to express the artist. But then the whole structure of the product should speak the audience that he should not take literally depicted, and move when considering the picture from the language of ordinary perception to language arts. In this case, it seems to me, "commissioned painting" says close to a literal reproduction of reality, and then its distortion perceived as a mistake. Gentle slope of water surface in the audience would assume at the very front - in accordance with visual perception, but the picture it - in the background, and it looks unnatural.
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Сообщение от mark4445 (Сообщение 1061692)
If we assume that the direction of flow of the river is towards the horizon line

Then the whole plane of the water table should be slightly (!) Tilted from the viewer. At least, that would have her portray an artist, to the movement of water passed over the audience. But, again, that photo was taken ill, and possibly all of our arguments do not refer to the picture, but to the distorted picture.

Art-ort 28.04.2010 12:35

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Сообщение от artman (Сообщение 1059842)
is attributed please painting, canvas oil 120h80sm.staraya.I to tell my artist, Russian or European?

Barahlyannaya amateurish copy of Shishkin "Autumn peyzazh.Osen in Pavlovsk 1888 hangs in Lugansk Art Museum

Кирилл Сызранский 28.04.2010 12:43

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:D Yes here it is:

mark4445 28.04.2010 12:53

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1062032)
:D Yes, there he was:

Hm, just say that it is night and day, will be a great flattery to the author discussed the work ...


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