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Альтист Данилов 19.04.2010 20:53

Presumably etude Subbotin-Permyak. Help remove questions
 
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Hello Please tell me your opinion on this work. Found in the attic of a wooden house in the 1970's in Kudymkar Perm Region and bought by the owner of the house. Oil on canvas, the author's frame. Size 50 to 40 cm on a stretcher letters: SA r-21. Thank you.
Yours.

gans 19.04.2010 21:05

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Сообщение от Danilov, violist (Сообщение 1044892)
Vanguard 20-ies

The work gives the impression of not professional, and with dating is not clear.

ленинградец 19.04.2010 21:08

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This is the Yusupov Gardens in St. Petersburg

Альтист Данилов 20.04.2010 10:59

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Large photos of letters and numbers.

Альтист Данилов 20.04.2010 11:51

Dear Vladimir.
In the expert opinion is worth - "Subbotin-Permyak" a small matter. Inquiring community to this work.
Yours.

Vladimir 20.04.2010 12:06

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Сообщение от Danilov, violist (Сообщение 1045722)
I have an opinion of the expert, who wrote a monograph about the artist's work. And the signature photo, this is my signature photo.

I'm sorry if you disappointed. Just in the very wording of the question confused the shadow on the fence. If you really want results and opinions, it is advisable to immediately write what you know about this work, the expertise? What a question to ask - can this work belong to brush Subbotin-Permyak?

Альтист Данилов 20.04.2010 12:14

Then such a question. What other expertise, and where better to do? Etyudik because bad !?:)
Yours.

20.04.2010 12:41

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Сообщение от Danilov, violist (Сообщение 1045772)
Then a question. What kind of expertise, and where better to do? Etyudik bad after all!?

Holst, such quality in 20th years did not exist is sov.hud canvas last decades of the last century .. Sketch roughly stylized rather "wring", even without taking into account temporal changes in the landscape and the growth derevev.Koroche - roughly skolocheno.Taburetka.

Альтист Данилов 20.04.2010 12:47

Want to touch the canvas ?:)
In the art historian with 39 years experience and author of a monograph about this artist these issues have not arisen. What kind of photos you provide and where? Or do you simply like that?

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Thank you, Vladimir.
Question - Can this work belong to brush Subbotin-Permyak?

Игорь Гурьев 20.04.2010 13:38

And I liked it, and in my opinion, may well be it.

Артём 20.04.2010 14:20

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Сообщение от Vyacheslav (Сообщение 1045792)
Holst, such quality in 20th years did not exist is sov.hud canvas last decades of the last century.

Agreed. This is a common crinoline, it began manufacturing in the late 20-ies. By the time does not match.

Игорь Гурьев 20.04.2010 15:07

the other hand.

Too climb into the eyes of the white borders around the reservoir.

Obviously, they were installed later.

With regard to the canvas.

Canvas Soviet-Soviet government of recent decades that I have seen and used, was remarkably smooth.

Артём 20.04.2010 16:06

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1045962)
Canvas Soviet-Soviet government of recent decades that I have seen and used, was remarkably smooth.

You say, canvas, and this crinoline. Look, compare. Types of crinoline Soviet period with characteristic nodes.

Альтист Данилов 20.04.2010 19:14

Can anyone suggest where to live to get good advice and attribution?
We made the photo better, a bit dark here, if you want - stand.
Yours.

Amateur 20.04.2010 20:13

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Сообщение от Leningrad (Сообщение 1044932)
This is the Yusupov Gardens in St. Petersburg

For the attribution of logical to answer the question: and whether Subbotin-Permyak in 1920 in Petrograd?

From the original in his biography, which is in the network that he was after 1919 appears to have traveled outside the province of Perm:

"Every summer he visited his native Kudymkar (which in those days was called Kudymkor), and the summer of 1919 he returned to the Perm province. He lived in Perm, but was often in Kudymkar.
In 1919-1921 he worked in the position of commissioner for the organization of art production workshops in the Perm province, opened with his participation in Perm, Kungur and Kudymkar. Facilitate the emergence of a regional museum in Kudymkar, the first exhibit of which more than 500 ethnographic objects collected by Subbotin and his disciples.
In 1920 he made a series of sketches of costumes for the play "St. Joan" on the play by Vasily Kamensky for Perm Theatre.
From November 1921 to April 1922 worked as an artist-director of the Perm State Art College. Developed a program of teaching theory and practice of painting "Methods and systems of the new art." He worked as head teacher college, lectured on art and art education. "

It was or was not? That is the question. (C)


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