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VIPWAY 26.03.2010 22:26

Mozart's Requiem - Vrubel?
 
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Nowhere did I find the author's picture - like Vrubel.

uriart 27.03.2010 07:25

VIPWAY, Vrubel Mikhail never and this is not painted.
Maybe it is a modern Dmitry Vrubel ?:shy::D

VIPWAY 27.03.2010 08:50

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1005032)
VIPWAY, Vrubel Mikhail never and this is not painted.
Maybe it is a modern Dmitry Vrubel ?:shy::D

And I think that is very similar to the picture - Sóller used a poison MOZART Mozart, even sitting in the same position

Причал 27.03.2010 09:28

Nothing like that can not see.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.03.2010 09:43

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Сообщение от VIPWAY (Сообщение 1005152)
And I think that is very similar to the picture - Sóller used a poison MOZART Mozart, even sitting in the same position

Salieri pour poison into a glass of Mozart. 1884.

Причал 27.03.2010 09:48

So what that posture? himself a character pattern is not similar.

Amateur 28.03.2010 00:01

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This is not a picture, and the author - not Dress. Do you - or lithography, photogravure or from a picture of the Hungarian painter Mihaly Munkazi (Mihály Munkácsy - a pseudonym, real name Michael von Lieb, 1844 - 1900) "Mozart's Requiem to conduct the deathbed, 1886

Игорь Гурьев 28.03.2010 00:21

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 1006252)
This is not a picture, and the author - not Dress. Do you - or lithography, photogravure or from a picture of the Hungarian painter Mihaly Munkazi (Mihály Munkácsy - a pseudonym, real name Michael von Lieb, 1844 - 1900) "Mozart's Requiem to conduct the deathbed, in 1886

Munkácsy.

A good artist. But this picture is not as good.

VIPWAY 28.03.2010 19:34

Thank you very much
 
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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1006292)
Munkácsy.

A good artist. But this picture is not as good.

Thank you for taking something similar. But the picture Munkácsy same plot only lacks three friends and his son Motsarta.Mozhet be drawing was made before the painting or is it someone else ????????

Amateur 28.03.2010 20:35

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Сообщение от VIPWAY (Сообщение 1008042)
But the picture Munkácsy same story only lacks three friends and a son Mozart.

In Munkácsy two paintings on this theme. What is shown above, apparently, the first draft or sketch. In the second scene, written later - already around 1900 - the artist added a few pieces.

VIPWAY 29.03.2010 03:15

Yes, that's for sure. Prompt please how to define it, that I have - lithography - design - print or podlinnik.Ochen old paper in poor condition.

Amateur 29.03.2010 10:22

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Сообщение от VIPWAY (Сообщение 1008802)
Prompt please how to define it, that I have - lithography - drawing - print or original.

I understand that you have no image field. This is slightly complicates matters.
First look at the image through 5x - 10x loupe. Bring it on gray, but on the black image areas. If you see that the image is a a regular point grid , then you - printing press. (Apparently it is - what you call the word "print").
If the image consists of occasionally the points of different sizes, there are two options. If colored spots or stripes slightly above the level surface of paper, then you - heliogravire (intaglio type etching). If they are on the same level with the surface of paper, then you have - Photolithography (flat printing). The transition from dark areas to light under a magnifying glass seem as if filling with fine dust.

If a magnifying glass, individual points are not visible or they correspond to the size of the characteristic size of the roughness of the paper, then, too, there are two possibilities. Try to take a rough piece of white paper and a slightly (!) To rub them somewhere in the corner of the image. If the paper would remain distinct tracks, then you have - a pencil drawing (graphite or charcoal). If the traces will not, or they will be barely visible, then you - lithography, ie, copy of the picture, made by some artist in the technique of lithography.

If you have a magnifying glass to see that the image does not consist of points, and formed lines of different shape and density, and these lines are slightly protrude above the surface of paper, then you have - a copy of the picture in the technique of etching or engraving the tool. Pay attention then to the ends of lines: if they are blunt, this etching, and if the sharp (thickness of line gradually fades away), then - an engraving tool. The latter, however, for the end of XIX century rarity.

If the lines are flush with the surface of paper, it is - one of the options photolithography.

And what do you mean by "original", I was not clear. The original is in the Hungarian National Gallery (Magyar Nemzeti Galeria), Budapest.

VIPWAY 29.03.2010 21:08

THANK YOU Mr. AMATEUR for pomosch.Segodnya try to check and the results will tell.

Added after 1 minutes 20 minutes
I looked carefully - it can geliogravyura.A it as it assessed? THANK YOU.

Amateur 30.03.2010 20:51

Heliogravire (in English Photogravure), probably similar to your proposed site http://www.worshiprx.com/Art.htm for 12 $. To see the image, you must click on the inscription "Mozart Directing His Requiem".

VIPWAY 31.03.2010 00:22

Thank you for the information. Order photogravure look what raznitsa.Ochen grateful for complicity.


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