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Анет	20.03.2010 18:21

Help find the author

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ask attribution.
Size: 23h30
canvas or board -?

раскатов

20.03.2010 18:34

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This is probably a copy of the etude Zhuravleva. Was such a good Russian artist and academician Firs Sergeevich Zhuravlev (1836-1901) was born in Saratov, Zhuravlev Firs. Painting studied at the St. Petersburg Academy of Arts, where he received a gold medal. Its kind of painting - home painting, he is known by several pictures, the plot of which is taken from the merchant's life. Zhuravlev wrote separate figures reveal the true reality, for example. He also wrote portraits. Figure Zhuravleva right, fine art, and true color.
But more accurately say experts.

Анет	20.03.2010 19:04

Why did you decide that this kopiya.Interesno know.

Игорь Гурьев

20.03.2010 20:09

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Сообщение от Annette (Сообщение 993302)

Why did you decide that this kopiya.Interesno know.

Because the style is not Zhuravlev.

It is evident that this is a copy.

The only question is, what it is time ...

U_Z	21.03.2010 00:41

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Сообщение от Annette (Сообщение 993252)

canvas or board -?

Unfortunately, the picture is not really, but I think that backdrop, or turn the picture with the inscription - hardboard. Question. Text is written in our hand to you a contemporary. Question. Rama - Western and not very old. Q

Игорь Гурьев

21.03.2010 03:06

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 994312)

The text is written by an our contemporary. Question. Rama - Western and not very old. Question

Which text?
In my opinion, the picture is written in our hand to you a contemporary.

Анет	21.03.2010 10:54

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 994412)

What text?
In my opinion, the picture is written in our hand to you a contemporary.

Dear znatoki.Kartina we have already suspended 25-30let.Babushke gave one, but unfortunately never discussed the origin kartiny.Esli even this recent work, whether it is the quality, and has any value?

U_Z	21.03.2010 18:01

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 994412)

What text?

See photo number 4 (text, written in pencil: FS Zhuravlev, beginning ...)

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 994412)

I think the picture is written in our hand to you a contemporary.

I agree with you. I have the same opinion.

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Сообщение от Annette (Сообщение 994512)

The picture we have hanging 25-30 years.

It is suitable time to use hardboard.

Anet, Give voice, please text written in pencil on the back.

Amateur

21.03.2010 18:28

There is not "F", and graphite, and "v" at the end of the name. But this does not exclude that

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 994312)

The text is written in our hand to you a contemporary.

Кирилл Сызранский

21.03.2010 18:40

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Сообщение от Annette (Сообщение 994512)

The picture we have hanging 25-30 years.

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 995042)

It is suitable time to use hardboard.

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 721872)

In 1858, the American Lyman was received the first patent for the production of fibreboard (MDF).
In 1864 a scientist named Munch created an installation for production of plates without binder, with the help of hot pressing.
American Mason in 1924, only perfected the method of producing fiberboard, quite by accident. The scientist had gone previously turned off the steam valve for hot pressing, but because of the failure of crane pairs continued to act in the press. Returning, Mason found in the installation of the slab is very high-density fiberboard for having called this his name meysonitom.
Thus since 1870 possible picture on fiberboard.
In the USSR, widely used in the 1960's.

Анет	21.03.2010 19:02

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Anet, ozvuchte, please text written in pencil on the back.

I would like, but unfortunately I can not read even under a magnifying glass.
If modern, why then sign so mashed, besides, she's been on the wall.

U_Z	21.03.2010 19:12

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 995112)

Quote:
Message from redbor
In 1858, the American Lyman was received the first patent for the production of fibreboard (MDF).
In 1864 a scientist named Munch created a setting for the plates without binder by hot pressing.
American Mason in 1924, only perfected a way to manufacture fiber boards, and quite by accident. The scientist had gone previously turned off the tap for a couple of hot pressing, but due to faulty valve steam continued to come in the press. When he returned, Mason found in the installation plate is very high-density fiberboard having called this to his name meysonitom.
Thus, since 1870 may be pictures on the JVP.
In the USSR, widely used in the 1960's

Already read it in some post.
See the last line of the message.

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 995102)

There is not "F", and phi

Not able to find this letter on your keyboard :)

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Сообщение от Annette (Сообщение 995142)

I would like, but unfortunately I can not read even under a magnifying glass.

We should see the work in daylight and under the slope

Игорь Гурьев

21.03.2010 20:03

As far as I heard the canvas as we know it began in 1920.

Previously I did not come across paintings, painted on hardboard, and 20-ies often.

Amateur

21.03.2010 20:42

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 995162)

could not find this letter on your keyboard

And it there and there!

- Would not you like cake? - Kindly offered Hare.
Alice looked around the whole table, but there was nothing there except teapots and tea ware.
- What cake? Something I do not see, - she said.
- Its here and there, - confirmed Hare.

U_Z	21.03.2010 21:42

"Beauty" with the left ear, very sorry ... and left shoulder betrayed :(.

Firs ( to the door, touching the handle ). Locked. They've gone ... (Sits on the sofa.) forget about me ... Nothing ... I sit here ... And Leonid Andreevich, probably, was not put on a coat, a coat went ... (anxiously sighs.) I'm not looked ... Newbie! (mumbles something, which is impossible to understand.) Life is something passed, as if he had not lived ... (Lozhitsya.) I Lie ... Silushka something you have gone, nothing left, nothing ... Oh, you ... zany! .. (lying motionless.)

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