Help in assessing
 

"Sailing" - painting on porcelain plate 32,5 h19, signature Hr.Mueller, rear bed net, the original frame.

I would appreciate your opinion on the artistic and material value of the painting.
About the author had already asked the question - the artist "is not defined ...".

This view can only be disappointing, alas.

Thank you for your opinion. As far as "disappointing"?

1896. signature "on-wet"

I would be surprised. if at Drouot for it gave more than 150 euros.

ksp is worth 500 U.S. dollars and above, if the 19 century is even more expensive.

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 Dear, just cheeseboard (earthenware), 19 century, decal simplicity 100-150 U.S. dollars, and here painting on porcelain ..

The artist, possibly Dutch, like the flag on the ship.

I meant that more than 150 for this at the Drouot not put both an assessment and begin to do with 80.

A Drouot here with? ", A man from St. Petersburg, and the prices others, antique shops operate on a commission basis, so the price should be realistic.

Eugene, thanks for the link


Tried, to the extent possible, to find inf. about the artist - to no avail.
The second work is also on porcelain, size, frame similar to

agree. being here Dru'o not very clear :D

Amateur, you're right, in the history of the paintings, indeed, is a Dutch "footprint". In the 19th century. sister of one of the residents of St. Petersburg was married to a resident of Holland. According to the stories and pictures from there.
I do not know whether the value that are arranged vertically rather than horizontally.

Question for the better outside of Russia to the editor of Russian texts: why in, not in Drouot?

In Drouot for this picture and can not give 50 euros. I remember on canvas "In the city Sednev" T. Yablonska was there sold for 30 euros, and then resold in London for more than 3000 pounds.

Flag on the first picture seems to French or Italian, but the second seems to be depicted Venice, but these circumstances, strictly speaking, does not indicate the nationality of the artist. With a name like that could be British, Italian, Dutch, German, French, Swiss, and Belarusian with Estonians, not to mention the Russian or Ukrainian.

With regard to the substantive questions asked, then the artistic (aesthetic) the contents of both works tends to zero. This is a sample of so-called souvenir production and price it according to circumstances, may be in the range from 50 to 500 euros. If suddenly shlestnutsya at auction two rare collector such veshchichek (and do not just collect people!), Here you are and get the best price for your plate.
 If, of course, this purchase will be paid.

Then it is French.

Thank you to all forum participants expressed interest in the subject and a special thank you the participants expressed their personal opinion on the subject of discussion.

For "souvenirs" 19c. can offer the money - a pair of works being prepared for sale.

So to speak.
At Sotheby's, at Christie at Drouot.

Can and Drouot.

Well jargon. They say the same: "He worked at the company for Tupolev.