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Mig 08.03.2010 12:09

Help with picture
 
Вложений: 3
Hello!

Julius Klever (father)
Oil on canvas
82h52 cm
1880.
   
   On the reverse side of the frame numbers are written in pencil "595" (height) and "825" in (width)
   Status of the canvas is excellent, no outbursts. But not very well stretched. How would "sags" in the center.
   When viewing the pictures on the light noticeable that throughout the canvas small holes the size of a grain of sand, but all over the canvas.
   In addition, the back side of the canvas, if we look carefully, noticed some inscriptions allegedly made in pencil.
   Expert opinion no.
   
   Picture name unfortunately is unknown. Most interesting. Perhaps it is in the database? The painting was bought long ago in an antique shop.

   Sincerely ...

Причал 08.03.2010 12:43

I think that this is the 85th year. But the 985th ...:)

Peter 08.03.2010 12:52

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Сообщение от Berth (Сообщение 968912)
I think that this is the 85th year. But the 985th ...:)

Me too, is plagued by vague somneniya.Podpis much as a nice lay down podramnik.Nadeyus that plagued vain.

Причал 08.03.2010 12:59

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 968922)
I was also plagued by vague somneniya.Podpis much as a nice lay down podramnik.Nadeyus that plagued vain.

And I fleshy signature svetlovat turnover of canvas, and painting is bad even for Klever

sergejnowo 08.03.2010 13:15

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Сообщение от Berth (Сообщение 968932)
And I fleshy signature svetlovat turnover of canvas, and painting is bad even for clover

, all right, says Clover, Clover means ... :D

Причал 08.03.2010 13:17

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 968972)
Yes, all right, says Clover, Clover means ... :D

I'm trying to learn to be good and not categorical :D

Mig 08.03.2010 13:22

Frame after restoration. It was in poor condition.

Peter 08.03.2010 13:31

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Сообщение от Mig (Сообщение 969002)
frame after restoration. It was in poor condition.

A stretcher? Canvas pull?

sergejnowo 08.03.2010 13:31

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Сообщение от Berth (Сообщение 968982)
I'm trying to learn to be good and not categorical :D

lovely thing, all the soul FOR .:)

Mig 08.03.2010 13:39

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 969012)
A stretcher? Canvas pull?

Unfortunately, I do not know.

sergejnowo 08.03.2010 13:57

Mig, your work, signed as Yu Clover, not the original.
From the photographs it is not possible to put an absolute diagnosis.
Presumably, you have a replica - not so long ago written paper on an old canvas.
While the canvas and not very old. Even judging by the sub-frame and the painting itself - zalipuha.

Mig 08.03.2010 14:04

Clearly ... To confirm or refute the authenticity of the necessary expertise ...

sergejnowo 08.03.2010 14:16

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Сообщение от Mig (Сообщение 969072)
It is clear ... To confirm or refute the authenticity of the necessary expertise ...

In principle, yes.
But in my opinion, this work, the examination can be saved.

Added after 6 minutes
Mig, by the way, you brought us the pleasant news.
Even from year to year, if sprinkled on the forum fake Klever - Spring.

U_Z 08.03.2010 15:24

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Сообщение от Mig (Сообщение 969002)
The frame after restoration. It was in poor condition.

Rama modern - 1980-90-th year. I was such. Unfortunately, the probability that this clover - 0.5%.

usynin2 08.03.2010 15:25

And stretcher fresh, and fresh canvas, and painting too svezhaya.Oschuschenie that the paint had not had time to dry.


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