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AlexanderG 24.02.2010 05:23

All the "compromises" with
 
Posle svoego dobrovol'nogo uhoda s foruma, mnogie uchastniki obratilis' ko mne s pros'boi vernut'sia v lichnoi perepiske. Ia by eto s udovol'stviem sdelal, no u menia net ni maleishego zelaniia delit'sia informatsiei, slyshat 'ili terpet' uchastie mnoiu ignoriruemyh forumchan v moih temah.

Predlagaiu administratsii kompromiss: vy rasshiriaete funktsiiu ignor, do urovnia nevozmoznosti ignoriruemyh prinimat 'uchastie v moih temah, videt' ih i obsuzdat 'ih, ia ne vizu ih tem. po-moemu spravedlivo. Net?

Inache ignor kakoi-to odnobokii.

Togda ia s udovol'stviem prodolzu uchastie v forume.

Deistviia iunogo admina, daze ne hochu obsuzdat ', ne interesno.

artcol 24.02.2010 05:34

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 942502)
Posle svoego dobrovol'nogo uhoda s foruma, mnogie uchastniki obratilis' ko mne s pros'boi vernut'sia v lichnoi perepiske. Ia by eto s udovol'stviem sdelal, no u menia net ni maleishego zelaniia delit'sia informatsiei, slyshat 'ili terpet' uchastie mnoiu ignoriruemyh forumchan v moih temah.

Predlagaiu administratsii kompromiss: vy rasshiriaete funktsiiu ignor, do urovnia nevozmoznosti ignoriruemyh prinimat 'uchastie v moih temah, videt' ih i obsuzdat 'ih, ia ne vizu ih tem. po-moemu spravedlivo. Net?

Inache ignor kakoi-to odnobokii.

Togda ia s udovol'stviem prodolzu uchastie v forume.

Deistviia iunogo admina, daze ne hochu obsuzdat ', ne interesno.

I think it makes sense to ask about this Administration:
1), prof. topics will be less flooding
2) the forum will be less negative

Which makes :)

dedulya37 24.02.2010 09:04

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 942522)
that makes

I join!

Сима 24.02.2010 09:25

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 942502)
prinimat 'uchastie v moih temah, videt' ih i obsuzdat 'ih

Togda ia s udovol'stviem prodolzu uchastie v forume.

That is the level of self-esteem! But will there be promptly made public a list of rogue states?

Евгений 24.02.2010 09:33

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 942502)
do urovnia nevozmoznosti ignoriruemyh prinimat 'uchastie v moih temah,

This (or a similar theme) have discussed a year ago, the administration against the site .. created the community, blogs .. (partially solved the problem) .. So what you offer, the ideal option .. (to allow the author the right theme editor), but I doubt that the administration of the site go to it, perhaps it is technically difficult, perhaps other problems.

iside 24.02.2010 10:00

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 942502)
do urovnia nevozmoznosti ignoriruemyh prinimat 'uchastie v moih temah, videt' ih i obsuzdat 'ih, ia ne vizu ih tem. po-moemu spravedlivo. Net?

I agree and support.
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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 942612)
perhaps it is technically difficult

I hope that this is a good reason why it has not yet been done.

On my own I can add the following: the site is very interesting, guys fellows, the forum is very interesting also, BUT the level of culture and quality of communication of individual participants, concerned exclusively selling its own waste paper, boorish vstrevayuschih all, without exception, talk - all this is hard to ignore and even harder to endure.

I have little free time and of course my desire to spend usefully, but if I see a flood in my temazh, unnecessary remarks - I come to the conclusion that it is better not to open the topic in general.
I have an opportunity to open a very interesting topic concerning the development of Middle Eastern art market at the moment - with the methodology, the names of the people that put art at Christie's auction and Phillips de Pury - in my opinion, this is very interesting and useful for the replication of the experience and its application to Russia's reality, and the general outlook, again until my themes gadili and shitting, I certainly prefer not to write.

Pavel 24.02.2010 10:12

The same forum! And for my own pleasure, to feel above, you can conduct private correspondence with Australia on an almost English, we fools reach Aboriginal language. In Australia, they also OOOO !:)

Причал 24.02.2010 10:34

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 943)
, perhaps it is technically difficult, perhaps other problems.

I think this problem can be solved technically as follows:

Alexander is given its own section, and limited rights and responsibilities of the moderator in it. Restricted - that is acting only in his section.
The fact that not suit Alessandro nick were not able to see this section - I think the speech should not go. It is their right and their same problems))). But remove them from there Alexander the message can. These discussions should not be duplicated or veiled continued in other sections. What sort of copyright on the subject.

Another option - to withdraw from the discussions in the "diary" Alexander (as well as another user, if they wish for their proposed topics). It is only necessary that in the diaries of the authors had the right to moderate his diary. Yes, this option is meaningful liturgy main forum. But this is the right forum administration to decide what it more profitable - to take the quality of the discussions or the number of posts in the statistics of the main forum.

iside 24.02.2010 10:35

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 942662)
This same forum!

Pavel, but I personally have no complaints to you, you are my subjects never wrote. Perhaps you have a claim to the other parties, which I know I can not and it is another matter.
If I say local artists I think it obvious that I do not mean all the artists present at the forum if something is not clear look, please, my profile, there is clarifying information.

Admin 24.02.2010 11:13

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Сообщение от Berth (Сообщение 942692)
Another option - to withdraw from the discussions in the "diary" Alexander (as well as another user if they wish for their proposed topics). It is only necessary that in the diaries of the authors had the right to moderate his diary.

At the right of bloggers to moderation, of course, there is. This is why blogs exist, that their authors were in their full-fledged masters of themselves and decided whom to admit into the discussion, and who not. Boss diary can even deny access to the diary, to whom he wants.

Seriy 24.02.2010 11:19

The problem of the standard in many forums and tried different versions of its solutions, including a special section, a forum for the elected, the creation of personal Subforums-chairs of the participants, in which they have the right to moderate.
Any good it did not result - in particular the sections there is no life, and a forum with dozens of individual departments, each of which may be wound up a similar theme, plus the same issue in an open forum - this is such nonsense ....- participate in one such .
 It should be noted that some faculty were provided not just for people - a popular forum, and people named in the offline-m e that have long-term credibility in real life, books, publications, awards and so on. Still, it turned out poorly, and these "stars" back in the open forum. Create department simply popular Members area is slipping on the level of the courtyard forum or a forum area - there are others.
  Again, there are LJ and people level Dmitry Vrubel, Marat Gelman enjoy all the features themselves, who want to moderate.
And I never met a delete messages from their LiveJournal on the occasion of unfavorable statements about the owner of the magazine. Because the authority Gelman can not destroy any attack Vasya Pupkin, on the contrary, the attacks set off, so skaat ..:-)
Moreover - Gelman brings together all the criticism in the network in your address, publishes it and commented on. The requirement to shield from criticism is childish, and not an adult approach, because it shows uncertainty and weakness in his position.
T e does not preclude anyone to start LJ and print everything in my head vzbredet.

Pavel 24.02.2010 11:20

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Сообщение от Berth (Сообщение 942692)
I think this problem can be solved technically as follows:

Alexander is given its own section, and limited rights and responsibilities of the moderator in it. Restricted - that is acting only in his section.
The fact that not suit Alessandro nick were not able to see this section - I think the speech should not go. It is their right and their same problems))). But remove them from there Alexander the message can. These discussions should not be duplicated or veiled continued in other sections. What sort of copyright on the subject.

Another option - to withdraw from the discussions in the "diary" Alexander (as well as another user, if they wish for their proposed topics). It is only necessary that in the diaries of the authors had the right to moderate his diary. Yes, this option is meaningful liturgy main forum. But this is the right forum administration to decide what it more profitable - to take the quality of the discussions or the number of posts in the statistics of the main forum

I do not see big problems. If someone believes that his understanding of the topics above, Members area and therefore limits their participation language or even as something he may need a separate site? Especially since he did not prove the use of words zagigulistyh no sign of any intelligence or knowledge.
I do not know that this is kommodatsiya, but I know that without pictures art market just is not possible, as picture writing artists, rather than traders and certainly the artists should dyt more claims against traders who can not raise prices and solve their problems at the expense of artists.
In all countries, artists understand art, but not vice versa.
And generally in all anonymity-what? Forum for what?

Seriy 24.02.2010 11:24

Admin, so then do not understand what is being discussed, time diaries is already there and LJ forum.

24.02.2010 12:04

quite seriously
 
And why not make a right to participate in topics platnym.Hochesh show off in another topic - the board and did not zevay.Dalee - introduction of a system of discounts and benefits for regular supporters and a progressive scale for opponents.
Part of the profit to deduct (need only think of how to avoid paying the tax) administration on the development and improvement of ideas, part of what some good delo.Skazhem to build a separate (preferably non-transparent), runs for sensitive members are prone to self-banu.Ili on purchase of expensive equipment with subsequent transfer of those who wish to communicate only in Latin.
Gentlemen Support! And then I read the topic "Compromise" and fall from my chair laughing.

Pavel 24.02.2010 12:08

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 942912)
Why not make a right to participate in topics platnym.Hochesh show off in another topic - the board and did not zevay.Dalee - introduction of a system of discounts and benefits for regular supporters and a progressive scale for opponents.
Part of the profit to deduct (need only think of how to avoid paying the tax) administration on the development and improvement of ideas, part of what some good delo.Skazhem to build a separate (preferably non-transparent), runs for sensitive members are prone to self-banu.Ili on purchase of expensive equipment with subsequent transfer of those who wish to communicate only in Latin.
Gentlemen Support! And then I read the topic "Compromise" and fall from my chair laughing.

Slavik! Hello, immediately felt Odessa-mama !:D:D


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