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Creating models of ships - the art, craft, interest for collectors ...

Good day to all those who may be interested to the topic. The topic I want to post information directly related to the art of creating high-quality ship models, and historical materials on individual ships, events. The presentations will focus on the present state of this art form, the prospects for its motion, the masters of their work and enables the purchase or order of the object as a model of the ship. I hope that your response will help me cover the topic in that direction, which will reveal the many facets of this art form.

Such an engineering structure like a ship, too, is refracted in art - ship modeling. Usually referred him to the sport or hobby. But it all depends on who does what. Mikelyandzhelo and craftsman from a flea market, both are doing in one form of art. But the result is different. And there are among modelers their great master.

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This engineering structure like a ship, too, is refracted in art - ship modeling. Usually referred him to the sport or hobby.

AT Sovkome Auction-№ 111 "Russian and Western Art"
is a model one, lot billed directly among among marin, marine Thongs:
Lot № 60 - Schooner Frigate "
Author: Alexandrov
Description: Pear, ebony, maple, copper, bronze, textiles. 96h198. Estimated value: 90000-120000 rub.

The image is small, it is difficult to make out details, but in this kind of art are important parts and details. I have attached a couple photos with the quality of claiming from our point of view on art. On assessment, the expert of these things - the question is open, because the experts are not auctions modelistavmi. There are actually described cases of communications modelers and experts when floated very comical representation of experts on the model objects. British experts.

And there are pictures with models of ships. Several years ago one of our local artist made calamity relief patterns and models of unfinished works, such as damaged and lying on the bottom of the sea, covered with paint from Pulver greenish, bluish color under the slime. It looked quite original, decorative, although such work can be found from other artists if you examine the souvenir shops along the coasts?

Yes, the theme of the sea she is, embracing. On the ship, as artefacts, as many layers of print, that if consistently and dig deep, not one craft enough material to work. I in 2005, participated in the exhibition "Ships and the Sea. And then prepared materials for the sponsor of the exhibition with a reflection on the possible options for cooperation for the future. Posted concept of organizing museum and exhibition complex. There was supposed to exploit this inexhaustible subject. A lot of what can be done, and much is being done on this subject in the world. But for me now, now this moment with models and modeling art interests and concerns. Little by little I will lay out the materials.

I looked through the historical material on the history of different art forms. One feature unites these materials. All kinds of art, regardless of their current status and relevance, "has its roots deep in ancient times." I do suspect this is done for refunding value trades. And continuing this tradition, of course I'll write about that Shipmodelling at least 4000 years. As a historical reference material, I took an article by Mikhail Yurevich Bezverhny - remarkable modeller, who lives in St. Petersburg. Photos of his work, I'll bring in the future as illustrative material. See for him, and his works can be here http://www.shipmodels.com.ua/rus/mod...voli/index.htm

What Shipmodelling and what can be considered as a model? Currently, the concept of "Shipmodelling" includes too much, not very specific and understood by all of his. This concept gets all that resembles a small boat. Anyone who tries to find a clear statement is likely to hit a determination include such words and phrases such as: technical aspect of creativity, sports, arts. Personally, I could not find a definition that is more or less accurately described to the very notion Shipmodelling. Now adopted language fit only to the modern class of models in the classification NAVIGA. In this, the generally accepted classification, scale models feel very uncomfortable. This is not surprising if one considers that the basis of this classification is the "sport" principle. Why it happened and what to do now, a special subject. Now, in my view, stand in need of an acceptable model, specific definition, which should be based on the inherent characteristics of this type Shipmodelling. In the future, possibly through the creation of such a definition, own classification within the class. What are these features and what are they connected?
Very briefly and schematically, it looks like this:

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Initially, the idea of creating a model ship lying sacral meaning. The model had a religious purpose and serve religious purposes. And do not think that this applies only to models of antiquity (the boat of Ra, the boat pharaohs after death)
European tradition has developed exactly the same. Thus was born the class Votive Model.
Votive offering, votive gifts (Latin votivus - dedicated to the gods, from votum - vow, a desire) - different things, brought a gift to the deity for a vow for healing or performance of any desire. The custom of offering votive items - a gentle way of sacrifice.
The tradition is known since the time of the cave-man to the present day.
The model of the ship as a symbol and embodiment of a real ship to bring in the gift and placed in the church for divine protection and patronage. The meaning of this modeling - the embodiment of a real ship in the shape of the model for the higher powers. Punctual adherence to technical features and details did not matter.
Most of the oldest survivors of the European models belong to this class. It's no secret that the success of the Church of the gift depended on its value. Not every subject was worthy of space in the church and the model begins to acquire the features of objects of decorative and applied art. As such, it attracts the interest of the most influential part of society and penetrates into the palaces and merchants' houses as a valuable piece of furniture or collections. Gradually, freed from the sacral sense, the model becomes a luxury.
Often, you can find the view that in a certain period models have practical value and fulfill the role of conceptual designs. As an example - the British admiralty model. This view is valid only with certain reservations. Indeed, shipbuilding practices ages 16-17 did not know the design documentation and drawings. (And other types of technical. Activities) can hardly be called a drawing, in the modern sense of the term, the documents of that era. Drawing, sketch - that the most suitable name for the graphics of the time. Try to build a model using only the "album Colbert." A model for the time, was the most successful way to show the features of future spacecraft. . But we must remember that the objectives of this model were strictly limited. Show lines and basic body dimensions, general plan of decks and artillery, decor. That's the main problem. The high degree of detail and a strict scale of parts of speech was not. It was an opportunity to demonstrate some constructive solutions, and building design features.

I'll get to that place article a few photos of models that Michael is marked as "British Admiralty".

the article Michael Bezverhny. But even these models were not only utilitarian in nature. After the demonstration, and approval of the project, they were intended as a gift, as a matter of great value and prestige. Otherwise, why use valuable materials, waste time on finishing and decoration of the model. " Same decor, can be much faster and more detail to demonstrate on paper. The model is often built not before, but during the actual construction of the ship. Conclusion: The model still remains a luxury and art.
Since the early 18 th century practice of such "utilitarian" model converges rapidly and is released in the form of technical models of individual sections, units or structures. There is a sharp division of the model of practice on bench models and layouts. Technical and educational purposes continue to serve as models and are very successful so far. Old, large model, 1: 10, 1:12 Pattern is the same number of specific educational objectives. Technical models successfully build now, and they perform their tasks in the design and calculation of real ships. Only Shipmodelling is not considered.
Bench Models exempt from utilitarian purposes, and increasingly are aesthetic problems. There is a growing degree of detail, well crafted, the magnitude, time and labor. The models are real works of decorative and applied art. This is not the practice of individuals, but the work of professionals and the entire team .. In developing the model involved professionals jewelry, bone-carvers, etc. End 18 and the first half of 19 century - the peak of ship modeling art is something that is admired and serves as an example. And there is no any special national schools, and styles. The total vector - the technical layout of the model as a work of art of high excellence. Take a look at the best Russian, British, French model. The trend is the same .. It is worth noting that this shift did not occur at the expense of technical reliability and scale models. On the contrary. It is a model of this period, the most authentic and ambitious. When you create a model of how technically reliable image of the spacecraft prototype, there was a remarkable synthesis of historical authenticity, decorative arts and craftsmanship.
Poster Shipmodelling - an independent view of decorative and applied art, which aims to create a scale model of the prototype vehicle, using a creative combination of historical and technical validity of the model, its artistic expression and skill of execution. photo, which shows the end of the article, this photo models from Paris Naval Museum. A little later I will continue the deployment of material.

Listen to what a mad beauty!

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considerations of small, difficult to make out details, but in this kind of art are important parts and details. I have attached a couple photos with the quality of claiming from our point of view on art.

Thank you, this is really worthy of such a determination. Evokes everything associated with ships, sea, literary works related with this topic ... And it details the whole point, you're right.

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Listen, what a crazy beauty!
Drop everything and run to the Naval Museum :)

Thank you!

Ukhta, Paris. Is it possible for you sometimes, please contact regarding this museum itself? Unless of course you really drop everything and run so far before him. :) "Well this is a joke, of course. But some serious moments in this posting to museums to understand the topic is. This is the time associated with the "sites" where you can see the important things of this art. Of course, apart from the competition the largest museums in the country with a long maritime history and traditions: France, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Sweden, Holland, Russia. It is in the museums of these countries can look at models that 250-300 years. And that relate to the period that Michael Bezverhny characterizes the ship modeling as a flowering of art. In which the harmony of the highest artistic level of performance and technical reliability of the spacecraft. The museums are accessible to the public. There are some models that were in private collections. For example such as the "Collection of the British Admiralty family models Krigshtayn" In this article we look at the largest private collection of the British Admiralty models. The collection was compiled jointly by Roman Krigshtayna and his twin sons Arnold and Henry.

According to them, the original intention was to gather a collection of ship models from the bones, dating back to the Napoleonic wars. And the first such model was acquired in 1974. In the same year at Sotheby's, held in the estate of Glen Cove, (NY), sold a collection of models Admiralty collected D. Morgan. At this auction family Krigshtayn acquired model Coronation and after that time more than a single model of the bones in the collection did not appear. Over the years they have managed to acquire more than a dozen other Admiralty models, including three others from the already mentioned the collection of D. Morgan (models 3, 9 and 13). When collecting collection Krigshatynami it was decided to concentrate on the first century (1650-1750 Gg.) When the construction of models in England began to develop rapidly. The collection has expanded not only through the Admiralty models, but also augmented paintings, ship's drawings, books, manuscripts, etc. In the framework of this article, we confine ourselves to the core collection, namely the Admiralty models. At least one of which refers to the time of the Restoration of Charles II. Causes of the so-called Admiralty models are still uncertain. The most common view is based on the fact that the model is part of the shipbuilding process in the royal dockyards 17th-18th centuries. CoP-melting, that the models were built as prototypes and provided Lord of the Admiralty for approval of the project of construction of the ship. However, this interpretation is not entirely justified, since it does not take into account the points that the models were based on traditional methods, most of which did not coincide with the true technology of shipbuilding, also ignored the fact that the construction of the model required a significant amount of time, and records the time regarding the schedule of construction of ships, could not allow such liberties, as there is no evidence that the models were stored at the shipyards as references to assist in building a real ship, well, and, finally, there is no record of the model shop and model craftsmen in the shipyards. What we do know, so is that these models were built by ship masters and to the members of the Admiralty Board. By the appearance of several remaining showcases for such models can be said that the decorative value and accuracy of a scale model of a warship were of great importance for the people of that time. In cases where we have been able to trace the fate of the model up to its first owner at the time of construction of the model, it turns out to be a full member of the Admiralty Board. It is possible that the models were made and passed to senior functionaries of the fleet in anticipation of favors or gratitude.

Whatever the root cause of building models, which have survived, not only do they "delight the eye, but through careful study, can find a large number of previously unknown aspects of shipbuilding at that time.
Photo models from this collection.

But models of this class are rarely fall on free sale. And if the judge of this art has an interest in forming his own collection, he is forced or patience, or draw attention to current models, which offer masters. In Europe there are several small shops that produce high-quality models of sailing ships in a wide stylistic range. But the cost of their models is extremely high because of the high cost of living in this very Europe. Garazd more than shops in this region "lovers." They make wonderful models, but for themselves. This part of the master sees this creativity is not from an economic point of view. They make models and show them on the arrangements for the members' club. " Especially good is the craft and his "public life" have been established in France. In Russia and Ukraine, also was unique, compared with Europe, the situation is. It is now live and work outstanding masters who work in order. And all models, which are building their shops can be the basis of collections at home or in other regions of the world. So far most of these works have kollenkionerov settle in other regions of the world. " I'll talk further about masters in more detail referring to their works.

Maritime museums.

What an interesting turn of topics! I have long been after a visit to Maritime Museum in Barcelona in 1992 (?) Or in 1993 realized that not leave any great maritime power, do not visit the Maritime Museum.
I saw in Istanbul, Venice, Lisbon. There is, of course, is full of wonderful patterns and pictures. and portraits (admirals and pirates different). In the Catholic countries of the Mediterranean - funny votive picture with a dedication to various saints (usually St. Nicholas), saving from destruction and death on the water. It was mass production. But most importantly, in my opinion, in such museums - they are the real royal court for ceremonies and recreation, are always in excellent condition, with a magnificent gilt carvings, etc. In Istanbul, for example, wonderful Sultan caiques Rococo. Somewhere off on the figure museum in Lisbon - find here let down. Recovers, threw. Look!

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Museums are interesting to us that they collected samples of reference for this art. A potential customer can find here examples of the style, information about the history of both the ships, prototypes, and models of these ships. A history of models is no less interesting than the story of real ships.

History of the British ship model from the collection of Peter I the Central Naval Museum

The collection of ship models, gathered at the Central Naval Museum in St. Petersburg, numbering almost 2,000 units, one of the most famous is the model of English stopushechnogo ship of the first rank "Royal Sovereign", which belonged to Peter I.

Over two hundred years, this model, according to records, had no connection to a particular ship, and was considered a gift to the English King William III of Orange to the Russian Tsar Peter I during his stay last from 11 January to 23 April 1698 in England. The reason for more detailed study of the history of the model were the activities associated with the tercentenary anniversary of the visit by Peter I of England.

We beg to differ with the affirmative opinion of the time and because of the appearance of the model in Russia. Let's start with the history of the ship, whose appearance has kept this beautiful model. According to recent studies Brion Leveri - keeper of the collection of ship models National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, stopushechny ship "Royal Sovereign", a character displays a model, was not newly-built ship and restyled (rebuilding). We used some elements of the body, including the keel, the first English ship trehdechnogo 's Sovereign the Seas ", launched in 1637 and later rebuilt twice - in 1660 and 1685. - Without changing the size of the shell. In the same period, he received new name first "Sovereign" and then "Royal Sovereign". In 1697 the fault of the personnel of the ship was burned in Chatham (Professor AP Cherche represents other data: the ship was burned by an accidental fire in 1696 in Woolwich during the repair).

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   Work on rebuilding the burned vehicle in 1697 commissioned the famous English shipwright Fischer Harding, specially relocated to Woolwich from Depford. The ship was launched in July 1701, he was more than 10%exceeded the size of its predecessor and has turned out so successful that it was the standard for first-class ships, built later by the regulations in 1719 "Royal Sovereign" concluded the service in 1768, .

   That model shows the ship "Royal Sovereign" in 1701, proved in the works of British historians Shipmodelling R. Anderson and G. Robinson, after a visit to the Maritime Museum in St. Petersburg - publications held in the March issue of "Mariners Mirrow" for 1914 They have made a comparative assessment of dimensions of the vessel, determined by measurement model with dimensions stopushechnyh five ships of the time: "Royal William" (1692), "Queen" (1693), "Victory" (1695), "Britain" (1700) and " Royal Sovereign (1701). Studies have shown the complete identity of the model at a scale of 1:48 of this magnitude, with the last of these ships. This fully confirmed the senior researcher of the museum AL Larionov and ship builders, AS Grebenshchikov conducting measurements of the model in our day and compare the results with the dimensions of the ship.

   The model is made in the style of «Navy Board», which we call Admiralteisky (admiralty). This style is characteristic only of the British models created during the "golden age" sudomodelirovaniya (1650-1780-e). These were the so-called "supported by a complete" model, sometimes with the rig, but often without them. The key distinguishing features of these models is the lack of plating below barhouta and the availability of carefully executed artistic decoration of the body.

    Of course, for making models, such as "Royal Sovereign", took a considerable time. Known examples of a single model to bookmark the new ship. In the case of the "Royal Sovereign", when the ship was burned by an accidental fire, such a "prudence" as the construction of pre-model "tunable" ship, and altogether unlikely. Accordingly, the longer any doubt the fact of giving a model ship "Royal Sovereign" Peter I in the spring of 1698 during his stay in England with the Great Embassy.

   New version of the donation model to Peter I by the English King William III appeared in the inventory of the cabinet of Peter the Great in the Kunstkammer made up his guard Osip Belyaev in 1795 in this book model is presented as a "model British ship of 120 guns, presented to Peter the Great, William, King of England . Subsequently, this version has removed in later inventories and catalogs Model-camera and the Maritime Museum, she was present in the operating records of the Central Naval Museum.

   Working on the attribution model, we conducted a study of heraldic elements in the decoration of the model. Some of them - such as the royal arms of William III on the bow shape latrines, a monogram on the Protection of the quarter and the monogram on the horse-cloth horse figure on taffrail - confirmed that the model displays a ship built during the period of William III on the throne from 1688 to 1702

   The coat of arms family coat of arms of the Stuarts, who were on the English throne in the years 1603-1714. Escutcheon divided into four parts. The first and fourth relate to England, the second - to Scotland, the third - to Ireland. The components of the coat of arms of England were three lions and lilies. Lions "Passau" (going on four legs) appeared on the first coat of arms of England, which was depicted on the state seal of Richard I the Lionheart around 1195 in the second part of the British coat of arms shows a lily. Lily is a traditional emblem of the kings of France. The English King Edward III, expressing the claim to the French throne, changed the state seal, so that on it, except the British Lions, attended the French Quarter Emblem. As such, there was a print of 1340 to 1801, when George III finally refused to add his title the words "King of France". Coat of arms of Scotland - a red lion "rapman" (rampant) - on a gold background appeared on the flag of King William the Lion Scott's (1165-1214). Coat of arms of Ireland - harp.

   In our model revealed two mutually exclusive royal coat of arms. At the bow shape emblem of William III of Orange (1688-1702). This fully corresponds to the "perestroika" of the ship "Royal Sovereign" (1697-1701). Being the spouse of Mary Stewart - daughter of James II, William III retained the usual coat of arms Stewart, only adding to the middle of a small shield with the emblem of the French kind of Nassau (the lion - "rapman").

   The big puzzle is the second royal coat of arms discovered in the stern of the ship - is the emblem of Anna Stewart. A special feature of the reign of Queen was the fact that she ascended the throne in 1702, up to 1707 had a typical emblem of the Stuarts, and in the years 1707-1714. - Another emblem, reflecting the fact that associations of England and Scotland (in the first and fourth quarters represented the merger of coats of arms of England and Scotland, the lions "Passau" lion "rapman"). In addition, the elements of the decorative board sign a monogram Anna in the form of spaced letters A and R.

   In heraldic elements, occupy a special place and plot patterns that are present in the decor. For example, nasal polifigurnoe latrine decoration in the form of an allegorical story about the fact of the transfer of royal power William III of Orange Anne Stewart. Here there are the attributes of royalty: the crown, scepter and orb, as well as the shape of a lion and a unicorn - "holders" of the British royal coat of arms. The final element, reflecting the transfer of power from William III of Orange to Anna Stewart, can serve as a female figure with a scepter and orb on the balcony railing aft quarter-horse under the figure of William III at taffrail. Attention is called to respect the previous royal family, which comes to replace Anna Stuart - the royal coat of arms and monograms, and indeed the figure of Anne, much smaller than the equestrian figure of William III and his heraldic elements. Regularities question: if the model is presented to Peter I, King of England by William III in 1698, as indicated in the records, then how to model the emblem, referring to the reign of Queen Anne Stewart, the 1707-1714?

   From the analysis of diplomatic relations between Russia and Britain in the reign of Peter I can conclude that the gift model "standard" of the Royal Navy to the Russian Tsar had to precede the unusual circumstances. Such an unusual case in diplomatic relations between Britain and Russia took place in 1708, when London was insulted Russian Ambassador Andrey Matveyev Artamonovich. It lasted more than two years, ending in reconciliation, in February 1710, when the envoy extraordinary to Russia in 1704 with Charles Whitworth, elevated to the rank of ambassador extraordinary was adopted by Peter I at a solemn audentsii, which brought the king issued a formal apology on behalf of Queen Anne . We tend to assume that this case and could provide an opportunity to present a model of English stopushechnogo ship first rank "Royal Sovereign" Peter I. The very same model arrived in Arkhangelsk from England in January 1712 Narim Maygeldinov, modeler from St. Petersburg, made Measurement drawing model of this ship, which is stored in a Central Naval Museum and built a model on them. Here you can see photos of this model http://www.shipmodels.com.ua/rus/mod...eign/index.htm In this message I will place several photos of his model.

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on Sovkome Auction-№ 111 "Russian and Western Art
is a model one, lot billed directly among among marin, marine Thongs:
Lot № 60 - Schooner Frigate "
Author: Alexandrov
Description: Pear, ebony, maple, copper, bronze, textiles. 96h198. Estimated value: 90000-120000 rub.

Returning to the possibility of purchasing patterns through auctions. In the previous article, you can understand how much work atributatsii models is complicated and laborious. Often it takes years and requires the involvement of specialists from different countries. And this example, the lot, as a kind of parody on this job. In this respect, the situation inside Russia and Ukraine to promote greater confidence in the custom-made models, than to the acquired in the free sale "kvaziantikvarnym" model. A potential customer can discuss the entire circuit with the master of its future order: size, style, performance, materials, artistic design model, additional decorative elements (figures of the crew, electronic lights and others).