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Konstantin 29.01.2010 10:26

Stealing paintings Andrei Vasnetsov
 
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apartment robbed the People's Artist of Russia Andrei Vasnetsov, one of the founders of "severe" style, the grandson of a prominent Russian artist Viktor Vasnetsov. Collection of works done enormous damage.

His famous artist won in 1960. "Severe" style which included paintings by Andrei Vasnetsov, with difficulty making his way because of the dominance of socialist realism. Today the artist is a recognized master, and his paintings are in the Tretyakov Gallery, in many leading museums around the country, as well as in private collections both in Russia and abroad.

The thieves apparently knew the daily routine of the family of the artist, so I chose such an unusual time (14-00 day). It remains a mystery how the huge (2 by 2 meter) cloth is removed from the apartment and quietly loaded into a car parked nearby.

The fact that theft was installed only in the evening. As it became known "MK" from sources in law enforcement, investigators went to the scene of the crime only at 19.00, when all traces and evidence certainly were trampled.

It is worth adding that the apartment of the artist is at the Patriarch's Ponds, in a prestigious area, where at each step are video cameras.
I wonder where did they disappear to?
We would lay out here the stolen paintings and the like thieves no place to go.

Allena 29.01.2010 10:29

Bad. The artist died at the end of last year - recently, so has found a crow ...

Seriy 29.01.2010 10:56

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 877872)
I wonder where did they disappear to?
We would lay out here the stolen paintings and the like thieves no place to go.

Well, if this pattern were recorded, measured, photographed. And if not?

29.01.2010 11:14

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 877872)
theft of paintings by Andrei Vasnetsov

Andrei Vasnetsov has not stolen or anything - he lies in a coffin.
A search for paintings from the heirs have to - it is not stealing a division of "creative heritage" unilaterally.

artcol 29.01.2010 12:17

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 877972)
A search for paintings from the heirs have to - it is not stealing a division of "creative heritage" unilaterally.

For such a division is possible and term pluchit.

Евгений 29.01.2010 13:17

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 877972)
A search for paintings from the heirs have

Well, where's heirs? They write the same:
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apartment robbed the People's Artist of Russia Andrei Vasnetsov

Allena 29.01.2010 13:26

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 877972)
search for paintings from the heirs have to - it is not stealing a division of "creative heritage" unilaterally

VYACHESLAV, not too early for these assumptions?

artcol 29.01.2010 13:32

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 878392)
VYACHESLAV, not too early for these assumptions?

Libel, by the way, also article :D VYACHESLAV, better give it :cool:

Евгений 29.01.2010 14:08

On the subject (with forum) Andrei Vasnetsov. Abramtzevo Museum-Estate "
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...215#post165215

29.01.2010 14:10

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 877872)
It remains a mystery how the huge (2 by 2 meter) cloth is removed from the apartment and invisible(?????) were loaded into a car parked nearby.

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 877872)
It is worth adding that the apartment of the artist is at the Patriarch's Ponds, in a prestigious area, where at each step are cameras.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 878442)
better give it

So where in the rub? Clearly said, is not theft.

Евгений 29.01.2010 18:26

On Friday it became known that from the workshop Andrei Vasnetsov stolen from 200 to 300 paintings. On the reported theft of artist Alexander Trubacheva, which Vasnetsov in life shared studio. Inventory has not yet drafted, but Trubacheva suggested that the stolen paintings worth at least $ 3 million. The point of fact not brought because the police suspected that the theft involved the heirs. In the Union of Artists VIEW newspaper commented on this assumption.
The theft of paintings said 58-year-old artist Alexandra Trubacheva, which for many years worked in a studio with Vasnetsov in Theological Lane, Interfax reports with reference to the management of information and public relations of city police department.

Trubacheva called in the police department "Presnensky" on Thursday and said that unidentified people kidnapped from the workshop from 200 to 300 paintings Vasnetsov.
According to her assumption, it happened in the period from 25 January to 28 January. That is when the artist was not available at the workshop. Alexander Trubacheva told that the door to the room was opened.
Accurate inventory of the missing, and the cost has not yet established, but according to colleagues Vasnetsov, approximate value of the missing paintings is about $ 3 million.
The criminal charges of theft of the paintings have not yet been filed because "there is reason to believe that the paintings are not stolen, and they had brought from the workshop of one of the heirs," said the representative of the police department of the capital.
The representative of the information department said that the owner of the paintings is the artist's widow, which is currently asking the police.
"Even in the case of arbitrariness, if it is proved that this is done heirs, this is a punishable offense. In any case, criminal proceedings should be instituted, - assured the newspaper VIEW chairman of the Professional Union of Artists of Russia, Professor Sergei Zagraevsky. - Our law enforcement agencies on a number of reasons have been slow to prosecute, and I think that it is connected not only with the excuse "but suddenly it's heirs, but also that they expect will be with the insurance. These pictures are probably insured. I experienced this myself. I recently set on fire in the courtyard of the car, and police did not initiate criminal proceedings until such time, until they saw that I got insurance. Since then, the right to a statement of a criminal case goes to the insurance company.
As I understand it, between the Ministry and insurers have an internal, secret agreement, which, perhaps, not recorded on paper. Insurers - when it is clear that the ends will not find it - do not go for the excitation of the case ", - considers the chairman of the Union of Artists.

"Since this is a national asset, regardless of how the issue is resolved with the insurance, you must complain to the prosecutor that no criminal proceedings - conviction Sergei Zagraevsky. - Our Professional Artists Union has repeatedly faced with such situations. And we encourage artists to immediately appeal this decision. As a rule, a complaint to the prosecutor decides that question.
As for the assumption that the crime involved family members Vasnetsov, an expert says it is not too reliable.
"This possibility, I practically exclude, - said Sergey Zagraevsky. - This well-known people. The more they know that the suspicions first fall on them. " "But this question the competence of law enforcement bodies", - he stressed.
According to the police department, at the moment to verify information on that among the missing paintings is the work of the famous creator of the deceased grandfather - an outstanding Russian artist Viktor Vasnetsov. However, Sergey Zagraevsky not yet been able to comment on the fact that it is lost, promising newspaper VIEW clarify this issue later.
As newspaper VIEW, People's Artist of the USSR and Russia Andrei Vasnetsov died in early December last year on 86 th year of life - after a long and serious illness.
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 Theft of paintings from the home of descendants of the artist Andrei Vasnetsov, which became known today, January 29, may be fiction. As told Ytru "in the Office of Information and Public Relations for the Moscow police department, to report the theft turned, the woman who rented an apartment under the studio artist, and not the heiress herself Vasnetsov. According to the police station, the heiress herself totally unaware that a robbery.
        Also, according to witnesses, "a few days ago from this workshop to transfer assets, and to do this all day, it was a feeling that people just somewhere perezzhali. On this fact is checked. The militia is also not excluded, the situation could arise because of the artist's death is commonplace and the sharing of the inheritance.
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in the news ( "The duty of") also said that the possible involvement of relatives ..

Кирилл Сызранский 29.01.2010 18:35

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Also, according to witnesses, "a few days ago from this workshop to transfer assets, and to do this all day, it was a feeling that people just somewhere perezzhali".
Possible and steal something was not.

Евгений 29.01.2010 18:40

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 879122)
It is possible and steal something was not.

The probability of large, tk had problems with the room (it is rented), probably frightened the heirs of the property, anything can happen, let's wait until tomorrow, I think all cleared up ..

29.01.2010 19:56

Chair of the Professional Union of Artists of Russia Sergey Zagraevsky though the professor, but with knowledge of the law in his assessment of "bad".
Criminal case against someone else is excited if the theft is proved by the investigation at the request of the victims or the victim (by Mentovskie - terpily "). And before that all are witnesses.

Самвел 29.01.2010 21:13

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 879292)
And before that all are witnesses.

Well, we're not in America.


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