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Costa 21.01.2010 15:54

What to do with counterfeiting
 
How is that? Dear foruchanin, recognizing in this forum that owns a fake, sells it in another place and passed off as the original words with reservations "on the authorship of the signature. A sketch or preliminary version of the larger and later work." At least it is not correct, as well as the maximum offense. I honestly do not remove things from circulation or mark the "copy".

Кирилл Сызранский 21.01.2010 15:59

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Сообщение от Costa (Сообщение 865202)
Dear foruchanin, recognizing in this forum that owns a fake, sells it in another place and passed off as the original words with reservations "on the authorship of the signature.

And this is what you mean now?

AlexanderG 21.01.2010 16:09

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Сообщение от Costa (Сообщение 865202)
"authorship of the signature. A sketch or preliminary version of the larger and later work."

V teme "Kataloznye opisaniia", ia by skazal, chto eto vzaimoiskliuchaiuschie utverzdeniia.

authorship of the signature - neuverennost 'v avtorstve.

a sketch or preliminary version of the larger and later work - ch'ei?

Costa 21.01.2010 17:40

Cyril Syzransky, see here
http://molotok.ru/item872893297_kart...enie_ceny.html

Люси 21.01.2010 17:53

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Сообщение от Costa (Сообщение 865462)
item872893297_kart ... enie_ceny.html

 Price 152rublya.50 cop? 5 dol13tsentov? Did not sell as well gives ....

Costa 21.01.2010 17:57

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Сообщение от Lucy (Сообщение 865502)
Price 152rublya.50 cop? 5 dol13tsentov? Did not sell as well gives ....

The minimum is not specified and is not reached. The fact that commercial sale with the accompanying description with all the background is not perfect.

Besides forgery will walk farther. And the artist's name damage.

Art-ort 21.01.2010 18:08

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Сообщение от Costa (Сообщение 865462)

There all honestly napisano.Eto his thoughts and his pravo.V the right to write their thoughts and may not pokupat.A those questions which you put and answers, what you give, say that would be better if you go to work in opera <! - ~ 1 ~ - "You can not deprive people of opportunities to learn not from textbooks :)

Costa 21.01.2010 18:12

Art-ort,
everything would be so if the seller has not informed on this forum earlier that owns a fake.
And at the opera, the copyright still no one has repealed. As for your "learn", you know, when you buy, we pay real money, not fake and do not offer sellers learn to fight fraud.
The questions that I put it in the first place the protection of author's name and the purity of the market.

Art-ort 21.01.2010 18:41

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Сообщение от Costa (Сообщение 865552)
Art-ort,
everything would be so if the seller has not informed on this forum earlier that owns a fake.
And at the opera, the copyright still no one has repealed. As for your "learn", you know, when you buy, we pay real money, not fake and do not offer sellers learn to fight fraud.
The questions that I put it in the first place the protection of author's name and the purity of the market.

Spend money on books on art and walking around the museums and then you would be a pity to waste time on such a fight ... Copyright here nobody narushil.Nikto Stozharov not deprived of the right to the original of this work, a product made by another artist is the product of another artist (Unfortunately because of Rossiyskim laws).

Costa 21.01.2010 18:45

Art-ort, about the interpretation of copyright law and acts seller mistaken. Not going to teach you, merely stating.

Vladimir 21.01.2010 18:48

Well, it says all the most honest:

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The picture of Vladimir Fedorovich Stozharov "Yaroslav's Court" (authorship presumably by signature), oil on canvas, 40x50 cm, 1965. The son finds this work a fake, but it is a subjective opinion, and therefore now be given to an independent examination.
This is a preliminary sketch or small version of a larger and later (1972) pictures VF Stozharov Novgorod. Yaroslav Court.
SergeiSK information is not concealed, on the contrary warns the potential buyer.

Costa 21.01.2010 18:57

Vladimir, the seller slukavil, because this forum said "I confess, this is my fake Stozharau" and showed it. Ie work is a counterfeit, that recognized including community. A sale of such things in such a way that is with the signature and approval, saying with the subjective opinion of the author's son, despite the fact that you yourself say "fake" it, and at least not correctly.
It is strange that all protect the seller, and no one expressed that the purpose of the forum, this is including the formation of relationships in the field of trafficking in art objects, and the protection of heritage and name of artists.

Pavel 21.01.2010 19:02

We must do something to share, copy, and forgery. Counterfeits are found in an attic in a pile of old rubbish. Counterfeits must be destroyed because it is the theft of a famous artist.
Copies are copies. Stozharau not such an artist, who copied or imitated, it is not so expensive and rather academic. It may be that this is a gift someone else, or a childish prank.

Costa 21.01.2010 19:06

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 865672)
It is necessary to do a split-up and forgery. Counterfeits are found in an attic in a pile of old rubbish. Counterfeits must be destroyed because it is the theft of a famous artist.
Copies are copies. Stozharau not such an artist, who copied or imitated, it is not so expensive and rather academic. It may be that this is a gift someone else, or a childish prank.

Manufacturing, and may have been childish prank, until a signature is not struck, but the sale with full knowledge that the thing is not real good, then this thing go on like a bargain, but it is the author has nothing to do and defame his name.

Art-ort 21.01.2010 19:14

Costa, to continue the fight and quietly move on to the book "Mein Campha"


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