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tevgen 11.01.2010 20:15

Help identify icons
 
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Inherited from the grandparents of my father's 2 icons. First I understand Lord Vsederzhaschy. Great-grandmother born in 1895. She wore this icon to Jerusalem. Inherited it from her grandmother. It (the icon) dreamed of his father. In the dream, requested that her (icon), my father took to him. Dreamed of lying face down in a table in a great-grandmother Sarah. When he went to her, it was there and found it. Great-grandmother of the Donetsk region.
The second icon looks like a sort Tikhvinskaia Mother of God. If someone will tell for sure - thanks in advance. Stories do not know her, took her father was there in the barn.

Questions.
1. Age. All I know is that not 20 century.
2. Which school.
3. Exact names.
4. Estimated value (collector, market, historical).
5. Why on the icon of the Lord knot in the heart. My father saw a few old icons - there were also swirls it in the heart.

P.S. Salaries were not preserved, but the paint still retained brightness. The fact that nobody restored - a guarantee. Photos on the phone, the quality is low, a couple of days will be better.
Last 2 pictures - the icon of the Mother of God.

 Thanks in advance.

Евгений 11.01.2010 20:39

tevgen, icons are simple, low cost, difficult to sell ..

tevgen 11.01.2010 20:41

and the remaining questions?

Евгений 11.01.2010 20:50

tevgen, meaning? (collector, the market, the historical component of the icons of zero)
 Why the mote in the heart? Interesting question, the first time at the forum to discuss it ..

11.01.2010 21:20

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Сообщение от tevgen (Сообщение 846382)
5. Why on the icon of the Lord knot in the heart. My father saw a few old icons - they were also swirls it in his heart.

When sawing boards for icons tried so bitches do not end up on the edge, face, hands, arms and face of prescribed application with minimal soil, all the rest -- only the contours of a salary - knots, flaws boards are not vidno.Kray with a branch - too brak.Tserkovnye Studios worked with minimum waste and minimum cost of material.

tevgen 11.01.2010 22:34

on the icon of the Virgin Skra not twig. is when the Germans swarmed into the house and shot - got into an icon.

redbor 12.01.2010 13:04

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Сообщение от tevgen (Сообщение 846382)
The second icon looks like a sort Tikhvinskaia Mother of God. If someone will tell for sure - thanks in advance. Stories do not know her, took her father was there in the barn.

Tihvinskaya is. There's even written "Tihfinskaya"
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4. Estimated value (collector, the market, historical).

Kolektsionnaya zero, the market "petty."
Family memory - no doubt.
Good image of the Savior and the Virgin associated with a family history

Pecheneg 13.01.2010 01:49

Help identify icons
 
Questions.
1. Age. All I know is that not 20 century.

"Lord Almighty" - podokladnitsa. beginning of 20 century
Bulk product of its time
"Our Lady of Tikhvin" - kon.19 - Beginning of the .20 in.

2. Which school.
No ... Artel'nykh consumer goods

3. Exact names.
"Lord Almighty," "The Virgin of Tikhvin.

4. Estimated value (collector, market, historical).
Collector value - no. Market - .....?
 Historical - no ... except if it is your way as the memory of the past ...

мурка 23.04.2010 16:43

Вложений: 1
Zdravstvuyte.Podskazhite, please, what kind of an icon, what is its age and value.

Любознательный 23.04.2010 20:51

Attribution icon
 
Age icons of the order of 100 years (line 19 and 20 centuries), mass production, the artistic value of (unfortunately) do not represented.
But next to her still prominent icons.
If not hard to show them as well.
Put the light at 60 degrees to the image (not to blikovalo, but it was obvious).
Not bad show and the reverse side and indicate the size of the icon.

мурка 24.04.2010 16:57

inquisitive
 
Вложений: 1
I'll add the photos, what is called est.Kak icon? Near no more icons net.Napisana icon on the tree, the frame without nails, Kyoto.

usynin2 24.04.2010 19:32

Similar to the Iberian Bogoroditsu.Tsennost this the same as that of the previous ikon.Mne think this lithograph pasted on the board.

мурка 25.04.2010 11:40

Вложений: 4
It's definitely not lithography. Razmer31/25.4/2.6

Ольга Роменова 21.11.2014 13:30

The name of the icon
 
As far as I understand, is an icon of the BM skoropowski. Now compare (only the execution is slightly different): http://ikonika.com.ua/pravoslavnye_s...ya_mater_ikona three stars on the shoulders and on the forehead), the hand of the mother of God applied to the heart, the hand of the baby faces the mother and fingers in the same manner, a similar garment, the right leg of the infant folded the same way on both icons and visible stop.

redbor 24.11.2014 00:23

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Сообщение от мурка (Сообщение 1053451)
what is the name of the icon?

This Hodegetria - Guide. Most likely the Smolensk icon, because of the Iveron icon of the mother of God should be represented with the wound on his cheek.

Olga Romanovathree stars must be depicted on the robe of the Mother of God, it is a sign triple-virginity of the Theotokos.
As for skoropowski", " take your time, look at the way: the Baby's legs are differently situated, in addition to the icon of the mother of God "quick to hear" traditionally represented the crown, which on this icon no.


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