Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Costs, valuation, attribution (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Makovsky, or not? (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=56212)

яков 06.01.2010 21:52

Makovsky, or not?
 
Вложений: 5
'll Show please!
Could this be the work of the portrait of Konstantin Makovsky?.
I would like to hear opinions from people well versed in art hudozhnika.Spasibo.

redbor 06.01.2010 23:31

Цитата:

Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 835862)
Could this be the work of the portrait of Konstantin Makovsky?.

Vpolne.Portret good. At his wife Julia is similar. And the signature - not a

яков 06.01.2010 23:48

Цитата:

Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 835972)
Vpolne.Portret good. At his wife Julia is similar. And the signature - not very

And her niece, too similar, and the signature, if any, can be called a signature, the type of disgusting, though old yavno.V that is the question - sort of like a visual and qualitative thing, and time is suitable and the signature of just killing, unfortunately .

гимназистка 07.01.2010 18:32

And can it be a fragment of the bigger picture?

ANTIK 07.01.2010 20:14

Signature 100%fake.

яков 07.01.2010 20:48

Цитата:

Сообщение от ANTIK (Сообщение 838162)
Signature 100%false.

Yes, that signature is fake, I wrote myself in the beginning, here on speech rather than sign [for this reason it is in this section, rather than selling ....]. Message

redbor 07.01.2010 23:20

Цитата:

Сообщение от ANTIK (Сообщение 838162)
ANTIK

ANTIK. and about the portrait, what opinion?

Артём 08.01.2010 00:04

Цитата:

Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 838362)
about the portrait, what opinion?

Someone with blue ribbon and the signature spoiled a good, a professional portrait.

Вивьен 08.01.2010 02:10

Вложений: 2
Signatures Makovsky of the period. A portrait is really very good.

08.01.2010 02:23

yak, and make a place, please maximize the big picture of the letter K (from signature). Especially the central part. Thank you.

AlexanderG 08.01.2010 07:44

Цитата:

Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 835862)
'll show please!
Could this be the work of the portrait of Konstantin Makovsky?.
I would like to hear opinions from people well versed in art hudozhnika.Spasibo.

Vopros ob avtorstve ne reshion. Vy predpolozili, chto kartina mozet byt 'napisana tem-to i tem-to.

Added after 2 minutes
Цитата:

Сообщение от ANTIK (Сообщение 838162)
Signature 100%false.

Fal'shivaia podpis' na rabote neizvestnogo hudoznika?

Nikto ne opredelil avtorstvo raboty, a podpis' uze fal'shivaia!

Kstati, eto initsialy. V katalogah dolzno zvuchat ' "initialed" not "signed".

Added after 3 minutes
Цитата:

Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 838222)
Yes, that signature is fake, I wrote myself in the beginning, here on speech rather than sign [for this reason it is in this section, rather than selling ....]. Message

Net, vy ne sdelali utverzdeniia, chto podpis' fal'shivaia.

Added after 4 minutes
Цитата:

Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 838382)
Someone has a blue ribbon and the signature spoiled a good, a professional portrait.

Eto vashe mnenie, no ne fakt. Komu-to bantik nravitsia.

Added after 8 minutes
Imenno takoi neprofessional'nyi podhod, mozet imet 'razlichnye negativnye posledstviia. Pri otsenke i attributsii nuzen sistematicheskii podhod. Dannaia forma ne informativna i vredna.

Eto mozet vesti k dal'neishim sporam v stile "Saryan, 1911, expert opinion from the State Tretyakov Gallery.

яков 08.01.2010 11:04

Вложений: 1
Цитата:

Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 838482)
yak, and make a place, please maximize the big picture of the letter K (from signature). Especially the central part. Thank you.

That's the maximum size of the big picture if you zoom in the letter - lost kachestvo.Spasibo.

Артём 08.01.2010 12:25

Цитата:

Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 838752)
Komu-to bantik nravitsia.

Maybe like someone, I will not argue.
Imenno takoi neprofessional'nyi podhod, mozet imet 'razlichnye negativnye posledstviia. Pri otsenke i attributsii nuzen sistematicheskii podhod. Dannaia forma ne informativna i vredna.
Professional portrait, painted by Sfumato. Ie imposed in a manner Sfumato, colors as it were, dissolved in each other, not forming distinct boundaries and effecting haze. Increased tone may occur only at the touch of parts or objects.
In this portrait can be seen as mildly (tonally) fits pillow in the background and the colors are not disrupted by the method. The head girl is the center of the color and tonal composition, the eye almost in the center of the oval, but slightly shifted, which again points to the professional approach of the author. Just the eyes are the darkest spots on the picture and they are the basis of the dynamics and the illusion of life (the imaginary reality).
Bow - regardless of the method. Dramatically inscribed with the moment of fixing the image. In other words, like "nailed" to the head.
Perhaps pririsoval by the author himself after, at the request of the customer.

redbor 08.01.2010 12:27

Цитата:

Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 838752)
Fal'shivaia podpis' na rabote neizvestnogo hudoznika?
Nikto ne opredelil avtorstvo raboty, a podpis' uze fal'shivaia!

Of course, we can not say that the signature is fake, not knowing whose signature is and who the author works.
 One can say that the work could theoretically belong to brush Makovsky,
and the signature - is clearly not the signature Makovsky.
 Yes, place a signature, a kind of awkward.

AlexanderG 08.01.2010 13:41

Цитата:

Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 839062)
Bow - regardless of the method. Dramatically inscribed with the moment of fixing the image. In other words, like "nailed" to the head.
Perhaps pririsoval by the author himself after, at the request of the customer.

Artiom, bantik eto tol'ko odin moment v otsenke dannoi kartiny. V otsenke dannoi kartiny net logicheskoi posledovatel'nosti iznachal'no. I imenno ob etom ia pisal.


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 02:29.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot