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Мимопроходил 23.12.2009 12:53

Who, to whom, why?
 
Neulyba addition Artist valued separately, and came because - although he is not famous for portraits. Artist, I admit, was a veteran - a professor, one word! And do not say that if the clerk is not that old, and to know would not know anyone of that name, would be a regular, Vasil Vasilev, akin to Ivan Ivanov's expanse of Mother Russia. But it so happened, how it happened. You have the talent - we have a merchant. Neulyba has conceived the series - not svernesh. And then, just because Columbia does not are calling - God himself ordered the portrait to write. And the debt good turn deserves another - there was talk that the artist at that Columbus is not one syuzhetets borrowed. And the artist took, and his first exhibition of some of the Commune on the nose! But the portraits were painted, and then the other, and how, because was a man of great talent. What I explain themselves go guessed, those to whom and for whose portrait has come ...

Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 13:05

About Kramskogo immediately thought for some reason ...

Мимопроходил 23.12.2009 13:17

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 810922)
About Kramskogo immediately thought for some reason ...

In response, he will appear, but as a secondary character. Among the three thought of it not. Clues and hints in the text in abundance. There is better not to guess, going venerable portrait painters, and careful reading and digging for information, if we want to solve. All data are available, check. Good Luck!

Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 13:25

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810892)
the first exhibition of the Commune

Artel.
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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810892)
Neulyba

Thought-Tretyakov.

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810892)
But the portraits were painted, and then the other, and how, because was a man of great talent.

A series of portraits of Russian writers, commissioned by Pavel Mikhailovich.
Yes, and Columbus, in Tolstoy's like, no?

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810892)
if it were not that old deacon, and to know would not know anyone of that name

Suffice rare name-Kramskoy.
That thought about this artist or imagined, because the very things are.
But, on there and the court is not ... (c) :D

That's all the way, and Perov fit.
He also served an order Tretyakov, Ostrovsky, Dostoyevsky ...
And perhaps he, my father, then he had a background Kridener, and mother-Ivanov!
A municipality then-TPHV. Yes, and his name, Vasily ...
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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810892)
would be regular Vasil Vasilev-akin to Ivan-Ivanov

:D

Мимопроходил 23.12.2009 13:36

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 810962)
gang.

Thought-Tretyakov.


A series of portraits of Russian writers, commissioned by Pavel Mikhailovich.
Yes, and Columbus, in Tolstoy's like, no?


Suffice rare name-Kramskoy.
That thought about this artist or imagined, because the very things are.
But, on there and the court is not ... (c) :D

That's all the way, and Perov fit.
He also served an order Tretyakov, Ostrovsky, Dostoyevsky ...
And perhaps he, my father, then he had a background Kridener, and mother-Ivanov !!!

:D

In your answers are sensible grain. But what subjects could Kramskoi Tolstoy borrow? (... rumored that the artist at that Columbus is not one syuzhetets borrowed ...)
Riddle is not difficult - all the characters "to mean" (in contemporary language, "selebritiz" :), here to dig in Rembrandt's pupils do not.

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Come on, Cyril Syzransky, free hand to defraud - What are the three names.
Neulyba, Artist, Columbus - who are they?

Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 13:51

Repin, Turgenev, or what?

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810982)
Neulyba

Still, I think, Tretyakov.

Мимопроходил 23.12.2009 14:02

Neulyba, as you correctly identified, well-known nickname of Pavel Tretyakov. This is the main hook. Furthermore, these different responses to your names there is one true!

Mihail 24.12.2009 00:44

Almost everything has been solved ... all the names were called ...
 Neulyba - Tretyakov, artist - Perov, Colombia - Turgenev
Last Perov, invented clerk, it seems his mentor ... Perov painted on the novel by Turgenev's Fathers and Sons

Мимопроходил 24.12.2009 10:57

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Сообщение от Mihail (Сообщение 811782)
Almost all solved already ... all the names were called ...
 Neulyba - Tretyakov, artist - Perov, Colombia - Turgenev
Last Perov, invented clerk, it seems his mentor ... Perov painted on the novel Turgenev's Fathers and Sons "

And why Turgenev is Columbus? Just because it fits?
Again I wish to speak no more, give the correct answer:

Neulyba - well-known nickname of Pavel Tretyakov. conceived a series of portraits of famous artists, he turned to VG Perov's portrait with the order AN Ostrowski, although Vasily before was considered a master of genre painting.
Perov - for my father Kridener, but in view of illegitimacy was recorded Bourgeois Vasily Vasilyev . Perovo nicknamed his secretary, who trained the letter.
For the collection of Pavel Tretyakov Perov wrote a series of portraits, the first of which - AN Ostrovsky, "Columbus Zamoskvorechye», in 1871. In the same year opened the first exhibition of the Association of the Wanderers, which was called the Commune Kramskoi. Same Kramskoy wrote that Perov borrowed plots from Ostrovsky.

In the riddle there is not the important places. " Portrait of Turgenev - in 1872, ie after the exhibition. Comparing the facts, "doge" response was possible, but stopped at the first meeting the appropriate response. Thanks to all who participated, and not only in the forum. Ostrowski did not name anybody.

Кирилл Сызранский 24.12.2009 11:24

That's what I wrote yesterday in 13:34.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 810962)
That's all the way, and Perov fit.
He also served an order Tretyakov, Ostrovsky, Dostoyevsky ...
And perhaps he, my father, then he had a background Kridener, and mother-Ivanov!
A municipality then-TPHV. Yes, and his name, Vasily ...

But you, Mimoprohodil, I have continued to "extort" ravidny response.
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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810982)
Come on, Cyril Syzransky, free hand to defraud - What are the three names.
Neulyba, Artist, Columbus - who are they?

Draw the conclusion: I'm your yesterday's riddle guessed at the second attempt!

Мимопроходил 24.12.2009 12:14

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 812232)
That's what I wrote yesterday in 13:34.

But you, Mimoprohodil, I have continued to "extort" the correct answer.

Draw the conclusion: I'm your yesterday's riddle guessed at the second attempt!

I was trying to extort you only response. Yes, you creep up as close as possible. But recall the subject matter
... someone to whom and for whose portrait has come ...
to be called 3 names. It's like a lottery "5 /36". Not to enumerate all the figures, should be called the faithful 5. The method of transfer, sooner or later would be called all participants riddles. You offered me several options to choose from, besides not specifying portrayed.
Tretyakov and Perov, were identified in the vast majority of responses, but I have these characters and not particularly hidden. Although the temptation to drag "Neulybu" in the dictionary definition Dahl, and data on Perov cut to a minimum.
Again, the name Ostrovsky did not name anyone, with the perechisliny were almost all who draw Perov, Kramskoy and lots of other artists.
However, in the absence of the first prize-winner, the winner acknowledges who took 2 nd place and had all the chances to win bezogovoruchnuyu Cyril Syzransky!

Кирилл Сызранский 24.12.2009 12:23

And this? You is not seen?
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 810962)
He is also the order Tretyakov performed-Ostrovsky, Dostoevsky ...

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 812482)
who took 2 nd place

Why? First there, and why I 2nd? How so?

Вивьен 24.12.2009 13:25

Mimoprohodil, let's have a riddle!

Мимопроходил 24.12.2009 13:52

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 812522)
And this? You is not seen?

I have seen. Agree, wrong to assume the correct answer to the question "What number from 1 to 10 I thought of" simple enumeration corresponding to the numbers in the specified interval. You perchislili a lot of names, because I wrote:

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 810982)
Come, Cyril Syzransky, free hand to defraud - What are the three names.
Neulyba, Artist, Columbus - who are they?

Does not detract from its merit - unlike many calls, you do so publicly at the forum, without fear has hurt the reputation. " Thank you.

Mihail 24.12.2009 19:14

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 811042)
Neulyba, as you correctly identified, well-known nickname of Pavel Tretyakov. This is the main hook. Furthermore, these different responses you names, there is another true!

No Doge, yes, but why did you write that there is one name true, when I had to write - there are two names of the faithful, because Cyril Syzransky named all your characters by name, without exception, it is your error or attempt to mislead?, Last you have :)


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