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Мимопроходил 16.12.2009 19:22

Know - do not know, but guessed it - so remember
 
I has conceived such a mystery. In order to understand whom it and the business-it all - one word to guess what really easy. With just one word that fate has written in the names of those people.
The two men had long lived - no brothers at all, although one person in his life gave way. One of them, the one that you see in the Louvre and in London, too, believed that there could not have done without a carpenter. But about our masters so to speak - the language does not turn. Our all tied to the Latin - supposedly won a handyman! Then do not even know about someone from the kind of talk more, but the son of the father knows best, and grandchildren, and all subsequent ones, probably, too. And one of our, one that the namesake of the first two and a contemporary of the third - that the collector has been painting large, much in the service he has ever hurt a soul - and for Khreschatik Kiev, in Moscow's Kremlin. Here are all different, like people, and the good of cases and their creations - without account. By the way, I heard that the word is cherished, I conceived, with the good beginning in the relationship.
I'm confused, and maybe vice versa - napodskazyval, so guess - the word, and with it the name, surname or rather, several of them are here.

uriart 17.12.2009 09:02

Tereshchenko Kharitonenko and Khanenko?

Кирилл Сызранский 17.12.2009 09:54

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 795882)
By the way, I heard that the word is cherished, I conceived, with the good beginning in the relationship.

Chariton-dp. -Greek. - "favor".

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 795882)
he was a collector of painting large, and only in the service he has ever hurt a soul - and for Kreschatik Kiev, in Moscow's Kremlin.

Also about Khanenko thought. And who else?
But there all "is one word that fate has written in the names of the people" to link?

Мимопроходил 17.12.2009 11:34

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 796972)
Chariton-dp. -Greek. - "favor".

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Also about Khanenko thought. And who else?
But there all "is one word that fate has written in the names of the people" to link?

Khanenko among the hidden there. However, as Kharitonenko, and Tereshchenko. All thought of names derived from a single word, despite the fact that the above - of different nationalities. We need to find a word, and the rest - as the strings will attract. All are thought of direct relevance to the world of arts.

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Surely more than a hundred hits or more than one version ???:confused: In lichku and other channels more responsible than the forum.
Correct answer - tomorrow at noon.

Мимопроходил 18.12.2009 12:31

Pub-am! Thus, the correct answer :)
The main word in the whole puzzle has been repeatedly mentioned in different versions of translation ( «carpenter", "master", "handyman» ) Latin faber.
In his first profession (carpenter) took the pseudonym Karel Peters - «Fabricius» ( that what you see in the Louvre and in London, too ). http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фабрициус, _Karel
The same name was still in one pupil of Rembrandt - Berngart Fabricius http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фабрициус_Бернгарт
Of those of our race because there was a Faberge (above all, of course, Karl).
His contemporary, ( namesake of the first two and a contemporary of the third ) was a Michael Fabricius Platonovich - well known in his time collector of art, the author of an excellent monograph on the history of the Kremlin, his projects have a major influence on the shape present Kiev.
http://dag.com.ua/people/view?229540&llist=
One source I read that the word «faber» and "good" - etymological relatives.
Here, in general, and the whole mystery of shelves. Thanks to all who devoted their precious time of solving a puzzle. I hope you enjoyed it.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.12.2009 12:38

Mimoprohodil, a complex puzzle.

Allena 18.12.2009 12:38

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 799762)
a complex puzzle

But it's very neat! Thank you, Mimoprohodil!

Кирилл Сызранский 18.12.2009 12:40

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 799772)
But it's very elegant!

I agree, but even for me too.

Мимопроходил 18.12.2009 12:52

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 799792)
I agree, but even for me too.

Why? You follow the right path. More precisely, using the right methods. But you went from the names to the word, but should the contrary. And then, not so much we have been monarchies. I thought, this hook will be decisive.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.12.2009 12:59

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 799812)
But you went from the names to the word, but should on the contrary.

Because I could "joy" and "faber" linked together.
By the way, is from the collection of 24 paintings in Fabritsiusa GTG, a total of Mikhail Platonovich was: 231 picture 160 Russian artists, 72 paintings 62 x western jewelry.

NATA NOVA 18.12.2009 13:08

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 799752)
One of the sources I read that the word «faber» and "good" - etymological relatives.

What, please? In Latin, "Faber-job worker .. (" Homo faber "-people working)
Channel want!

Мимопроходил 18.12.2009 16:45

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 799892)
What, please? In Latin, "Faber-job worker .. (" Homo faber "*- people working)
Channel want!

*- craftsman

Well, if a question of principle, here you can see:

"... Once in the newspaper" Literature "I posted a note on the etymology of the word good. It was akin to words such as dialectal doba (time, time, date, day), Pastry, pertain verb, adjective convenient. Outside of the Slavic language of his relatives - Latin faber (skillful, it comes from the factory), the Armenian darbin (blacksmith). In other words, this word means "something created, prilazhennoe suitable ...".
http://lit.1september.ru/articlef.php?ID=200001501

Although I read in another source - not now have time to find, on the corporate late :shy:

PS Homo faber in terminology - Homo habilis.

ранжер 18.12.2009 17:10

I do not know how now, thirty years ago some sort in the Russian language the phrase homo faber identify activities that a business person.
In some context it can be read as rukomeslenny man, craftsman, even an artist, the creator. In the latter sense it is used in the famous novel by Max Frisch, who had a marked influence on postwar European literature.

 In anthropology, the term refers to people - the creator of tools, in contrast to homo sapience , Homo sapiens.

NATA NOVA 18.12.2009 17:22

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 800452)
PS Homo faber in terminology - Homo habilis.
     

...." The name of the novel "Homo Faber" in Russian "does not play": "homo faber" in Latin means "a person produces," "

More options?

Кирилл Сызранский 18.12.2009 17:33

In the novel the main character called Walter Faber.


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