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Sandro 08.12.2009 22:12

Forwarding /customs clearance
 
Dear! Sharing experience!
Some time ago, consulted with forumcanam how to get out of Japan Sculpture of 12 pcs. Moscow.
Using the Council will have further forward:
- 1 sculpture in one parcel (weight 17-18 kg)
- Assessment of each no more than 10 000 rubles. (so as not to pay a fee 30%)
- Mail EMS (the most inexpensive and reliable option)
- Sending of tsp for tsp
Thus I DB reach 12 parcels.
Agreed on everything with the Japanese (and underestimation, and marking "gift ")... BUT!!! To receive a parcel with the assessment below 10000 rub. et seq. not pay a fee, is, can only 1 time per week!
A Japanese executive was sent, of course, almost in one day.
I came for 3 days is 7 pieces, waiting for the rest tomorrow ...

So it got to a fee of 30%of the total cost minus 10 thousand rubles.
And that was when began to insist on the cultural values and called an expert - have a duty to pay the same and in this case. Ie when sending international mail fee paid always!

Total time customs clearance and receipt of goods - 5 hours (Warsaw route, Moscow)

Кирилл Сызранский 08.12.2009 22:19

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 773842)
So it came to the fee 30%

Why not 20%? The first time I've heard all about 30%.

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That is, when sending international mail fee is always paid!

If you score more than 5 tons rub. (5000 pp. 1 cop. + Fee).

Sandro 08.12.2009 22:28

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 773852)
Why not 20%? The first time I've heard all about 30%.

You probably have a view of 18%VAT which is payable on such forward DHL

In my case, sending regular mail EMS

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 773852)
If you score more than 5 tons rub. (5000 pp. 1 cop. + Tax).

If the overall assessment of the goods received within 1 week, more than 10 000 rubles.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.12.2009 22:39

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 773902)
You probably have a view of 18%VAT, which is paid when you send such DHL

In my case, sending regular mail, EMS

And what is the difference-DHL, EMS?
Yes, I'm about 18%.

Sandro 08.12.2009 22:52

Cyril Syzransky, so from one site explanation:

Also, Customs Service deals with the fact that checks the postage required for the payment of customs duties. The duty is always paid by the recipient, in a country where the product comes, ie if you have received goods from the United States in Russia, then the fee must be paid in Russia (with the exception of certain types of delivery, which the sellers on eBay are usually not used). In each country, set a threshold amount (usually 200-300 euros) and if the cost of goods lower than this amount, then it is not subject to duty and after passing customs control are delivered by regular mail - you in the mailbox comes with a mail notification that must appear and pick it up. If the parcel is subject to payment of the fee - in this as there are no complications. In this case, you come to your mailbox notification that will be on your local customs warehouse, the duties and pick it up.

The cost of parcel determines its sender, to fill the "estimated value", or representative of the Customs Service, if it is not specified, or it disagrees with.

So, remember the basic concepts:
Duty - a tax charged by customs authorities.


Estimated cost - the cost of the goods certain senders send any employee of the customs service.

Also to answer the most popular among beginners question: "And what if I ask the sender to indicate too low a valuation assumptions?". In this case, if the customs officers who will carry out an inspection does not agree with the appraised value (if it is obviously too low, then most likely it will be so), then he will evaluate. Also score a parcel will be made by Customs if the column "estimated cost" nothing stated or written "gift" (Gift). This usually entails an increase in payments and delays in processing. Again: if the parcel is subject to payment of the fee, it will not come to the post, but on your local (city or district), bonded warehouse, where your address is sent a letter with notification of the details please pay a fee. You are there, pay the required amount, and then pick up your parcel.


Russia

Sending you may be sent in two ways:

With the organization that owns the right to work with international postage (in fact, normal state by mail) - is a U.S. USPS, Doychepost German, British Royal mail and courier EMS, which operates the SBI many countries.

In this case, under the Customs Code of Russia is allowed duty free import of goods in the form of assumptions, if the estimated value does not exceed 10 thousand rubles. If the estimated value exceeds this amount, the difference shall be charged with the duty of 30%. Let's look at an example. For example, the estimated value of the goods 15 000 rubles, while the amount would fall under the fee will be: 15 000 - 10 000=5000 pp., 30%from 5000 - is 1500 rubles. Ie fee, which will need to pay - 1500 rubles.

 With a courier delivery service (DHL, FedEx, TNT, etc.)

Here is a little different scheme and customs clearance has a slightly different order. In this case, be subject to PAYE, the so-called "aggregate customs duties, is: + excise duty + VAT. Also, when this form of delivery shall be charged a so-called "fee for customs clearance, its value is 250 rubles.

Now on Fees: If the estimated value of a parcel less than 5000 rubles. Customs duty is not charged at all. Excise duty must be determined by the tables.


Let's look at an example: You have been sent brandy. Estimated cost of a parcel - $ 400, shipping costs $ 100. Customs value will be equal to $ 400 + $ 100=$ 500. Determine the HS code - 9506701000. Import duty on these goods = 15%, excise tax = 0, VAT = 18%.

Calculate payments:

Charges for customs clearance of 250 rubles. ~ 9 $
The duty is $ 400 * 0,15 = 75 $
VAT ($ 500 + 75 $ = 575 $) * 0.18 = $ 103.5
Total: 9 $ + 75 $ + 103.5 = $ 187.5

spigo 08.12.2009 23:15

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Tana 09.12.2009 22:35

I think the safest way is still to look into "CUSTOMS CODE ROSSIYSKOY FEDERATION", Article 295 "The customs duties and taxes in respect of goods dispatched by international mail":

1. Customs duties and taxes in respect of goods dispatched by international mail is not paid if the value of goods dispatched within one week to one consignee, does not exceed 10 thousand.

http://www.natamozhne.ru/tamozh/tamozh_372.html

 DHL, UPS, FedEx - Customs limit, not taxable, 5000 .- USD (that's not why they have found the limit 5000rub)

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 773842)

And that was when began to insist on the cultural values and called an expert - have a duty to pay the same and in this case. Ie when sending international mail fee paid always!

Sandro I think you mean, whenever the threshold is exceeded (10000rub)?

but in Britain such a threshold of about 36 pounds 1800rubley and not a week, and every time you forward and pay a fee of 15-25%(depending on the type of goods) being paid by the entire amount, not only on the excess amount, ie e. if the parcel will be at 37 pounds, the tax will be with the entire amount-37funtov.

breath 06.04.2012 17:21

When needed the help of providing customs services, I was advised to contact the firm Expert Status.
Reliable company, has never let down, and now working with her constantly.

17.09.2013 13:35

Friends, tell me now what rates and procedure.


Here's an example I send DHL from Europe to Moscow picture.


What's next and how much to pay today, how to declare.
CC or CC.


Thanks in advance!

Кирилл Сызранский 17.09.2013 16:23

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Сообщение от abbakus (Сообщение 2763921)
CC or CC.

No matter the CC /CC does not - does not matter.
Pay the cost of the goods forwarded.

17.09.2013 17:24

And how many are now paying interest?
percentage of your words, I understand that the same is not KC KC?
to which the cost of goods do not pay taxes?
as is proved?
photocopy of the invoice?
Thank you, I wait for answers <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 17.09.2013 17:42

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How much interest is paid now ?

18%like .
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to what the cost of the goods does not pay taxes ?

Up to 10 thousand rubles . was perhaps already raised again , I do not know .
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copy of the invoice ??

Or invoice itself , if any.
In general , the cost of the sender puts down , it may indicate and "gift" even .

You call DHL customs broker , will offer services , he will pay %and bring home the parcel.

17.09.2013 18:29

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2764451)
18%, sort of.

Up to 10 thousand rubles . was perhaps already raised again , I do not know .

Or invoice itself , if any.
In general , the cost of the sender puts down , it may indicate and "gift" even .

You call DHL customs broker , will offer services , he will pay %and bring home the parcel .

Kirill , thank you for your answers . but I'm a little confused.

If you put down Gift , the customs duty is not at all or what?

A type of brokers DHL, how many take for such services in the middle ? it depends on the size of the parcel or its value again ?

Кирилл Сызранский 17.09.2013 18:39

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If you put down Gift , the customs duty at all or will not like ?

The idea is not to claim , but if the Customs finds that the thing is very expensive , will decline to pay .

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A type of brokers DHL, how much charge for such services , on average ?

Thousands of 3 , I think. You call DHL and the ask .

17.09.2013 18:41

The site says Customs http://www.tks.ru/nat/0030000001#01

* Under current rules to date , the ISA can be forwarded to the duty-free Russian antiques in the amount of 10 thousand rubles. , All the values ​​that stand more of that amount is taxed at 30%.

KC is considered antiques over 100 years old ? what apparently exempt under 18 %....

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2764701)
The idea is not to claim , but if Customs determines that a thing is very expensive, will decline to pay .


Thousands of 3 , I think. You call DHL and the ask .
Maybe there is some %of the cost , I do not remember, but not expensive. Over the last package I paid only to the broker for his services .

Yeah interesting. How will they evaluate the picture, if not enclosed invoice ? Expert cause apparently .. generally clear about , and try !


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