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Vladimir 19.05.2008 13:05

Abramovich with Freud and Bacon. Ah, young man ...
 
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Agency Bloomberg (www.bloomberg.com) with reference to the www.timesonline.co.uk reported that information from credible sources, the work of Lucian Freud's "Sleeping Inspector for the benefits »(Christie's, 33,6 million dollars), as well as the picturesque" Triptych by Francis Bacon (Sotheby's, 86,2 million of this work will be described below) were bought by Roman Abramovich. If so, then we can assume that both work in the future can be seen in Moscow. It is known that in September in the capital is scheduled to open a new contemporary art center (the Center for Contemporary Culture Moscow), the organization which deals with Daria Zhukova. First exhibition project will be a retrospective of Ilya and Emilia Kabakov. Center is located in the buildings, designed by the Constructivist architect Konstantin Melnikov, in 1927.


Interestingly, bring it to Moscow? If you bring, then do what feelings, positive?

Meister 24.05.2008 11:56

if it corresponds to the truth, then surely bring) it will attract the masses who want to go there, and I am including ))))))))))))))))

Vladimir 24.05.2008 14:36

Meister, what to hide, I'd be happy to look. Bacon alive first saw in 2004 at the Salon des Beaux Arts Gallery Tseretelli Prechistenke. They brought Marlborough Fine Art, the largest dealer of Bacon serious inventory. Then a year later, she brought home Bacon and Fernando Botero. In 2004, the whisper called Bacon's price - $ 4 million. Now I read your report on the first salon and laugh: http://www.directorinfo.ru/Article.a...07&iid=610

Quote of 2004:
The shocking manner, plots, and higher emotional tension in the works brought the artist in his lifetime and millions of popularity, which could not prevent even a bad reputation Bacon. His paintings are not like them all, but some can not but arouse disgust the viewer with a healthy psyche. In the case of Bacon's neutrality and restraint of the plot - it is the dignity of work. These are the pictures brought Gallery Marlborough. Man at Washbasin ( «Man of the sink") and Stilllife Statue with broken Statue ( «Still Life with a broken statue") immediately riveting account. They not only puzzling ( "mystery" - the norm for the artist), but also an unusually decorative. Are depicted with a difference of 6 years, but the size of the canvas is the same - 198 x 147,5. Such "sverhrazmer" in terms of collector - drawback: the picture is too large and overshadows everything else. However, surrounded Bacon, perhaps, could only other picture of Bacon. More than strange life of Francis Bacon is dedicated to the film "Love - is the Devil" (2002) directed by John Maybury, which certainly spurred interest in the "mystery" of the artist and raise the costs of its work. At least, the price of each of the paintings brought Marlborough, chosen to bracket a $ 4 million, which is twice more expensive than the canvas by Salvador Dali Ensorcellement - Les sept art ( «Sorcery - The Seven Arts), exhibited a gallery Darga & Lansberg.

I remember that within a year or two Marlboros again brought home Bacon, large-scale canvases and for them to whisper, too, called the price - $ 6 million now canvases of this class are not less than 30 million, but rather more. That's how life is changing. However, Abramovich in 2004-2005 who remembers, decides to commit other tasks, then it was not up to art ...

Meister 24.05.2008 15:20

Vladimir, can it be true under 30 million? I think that if, for example, to sell 3 of a kind of first-class Bacon and put them on the price of 30 million, it is unlikely to leave all 3. My arguments are motivated by recent developments with Rothko at Sotheby's and Christies, when two 50 millionth Rothko was too much for the market. Although, undoubtedly, Bacon is much more interesting and profound artist than a Rothko.

Rising prices of all works of art continues, so much surprised by the price growth is at or where Bacon Rothko's not worth it. And what we now seems insanely expensive in 2-3 years would be ridiculous to today's price and very cheap))) but to overcome this psychological barrier is quite difficult and probably not necessary. Buy above the market with an investment point of view, unjustified.

Glasha 24.05.2008 18:51

If you bring, I am among the first to fly to look at "charming sleeping baby" ...

Vladimir 24.05.2008 21:49

Gala, did a little one ... One and a half to two meters. This is for Freud only brolshoy size.

Vladimir 24.05.2008 21:53

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 4426)
certainly Bacon is much more interesting and profound artist than a Rothko.

It does not even doubt. If Bacon will exhibit 3 to 30 million, while 90 - probably not buy. If only because not exhibited, in this mode is to sell it would be strange, and not profitable. While those Bacon that Abramovich had bought it three at once for $ 86 million is the same triptych.

Konstantin 24.05.2008 21:57

Bacon's paintings - clearly negative. Класные, strong, but they have negative energy. I would not want to is hanging at home.

Vladimir 24.05.2008 22:14

Bacon for living
 
Konstantin, with few exceptions, yes, negative, more precisely, even kakya a sophisticated candor, all the hidden desires out. A desire on the part of Bacon were the more ... On the other hand, in the museum such things more than appropriate - there are no issues. Same Rembrandt on negativity is comparable with Bacon, and a lot of first names. That carcasses Chaim Soutine (idea Rembrandt), for example. Those who buy Bacon home, is unlikely to broadcast it in the living room. For this there can be any closed rooms, not for a general overview, the distant room, or even in the safes in the free-port store. In general, a number of first-rate artists "not for the living room, you can build very long. Take out our sixties. With first-class Yankylevsky can hang in the living room? Or Tsalkova? Nesterov is not all. Roginsky not all. All complex emotions which is ill-suited for your living room.

Where to get this movie? http://www.rol.ru/news/art/kino/02/05/20_006.htm
On Amazon there are only in English: http://www.amazon.com/Love-Devil-Stu...103&sr=8-1

Vladimir 24.05.2008 22:32

Offtop: Abramovich sacked Grant
 
FC Chelsea confirmed that the contract with Avram Grant now been terminated.

This was the result of negotiations over the past two days. "Everyone at Chelsea would like to thank Avram for his contribution he had made since he became coach last September. Now we will concentrate all efforts on finding a new coach for Chelsea, and further comment would not follow until There will not be found "- conveys the official website of the club.

Recall this week specialist was unable to lead his club to victory in the Champions League. The team lost in the final match of Manchester United in a penalty shootout. In the national championship club won the silver medal, also giving way to the championship Manchester United.

Before his team was headed by Jose Mourinho, who was dissatisfied with club owner Roman Abramovich. Portuguese coach, despite the love from fans and the media, also failed to lead the team to victory in the Champions League.

Meister 24.05.2008 22:56

Vladimir, one thing triptych, another thing three different work. And the likelihood that once the three works can also enter the market is quite large. Bacon for their lives created not a few works. Examples where multi-million Monet while appearing in the sale and sold can lead not enough. Just significance of artists are different, although I would have thought any of them to buy at the same price.
Interestingly, by the way, watch a film about Bacon, although judging by the description it is far difficult to grasp.

I can not say that in Bacon one negative, not all there so negative, it is hard to perceive, but some like it. Buy now, to keep it in the free-port? Well it is not logical, if not as an investment is purchased.

By the way Vladimir, did not agree with you that the first-class Tsalkova can hang at home. It is even possible. Yes, and in the work Yankylevsky can find suitable work for the interior.

P.S. The fact that Abramovich sacked Mourinho for nothing - it is a fact. As for Grant did not know, I never realized he is a good coach or a bad one. Commando, unfortunately my personal, nothing was able to win, but it was closer than ever. And now again a new coach, need players for him to adjust ... and next year will gain nothing, IMHO.

Admin 27.05.2008 08:30

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 4506)

Messages on films on art made in the separate branch.

ирина 28.05.2008 23:26

Vladimir, I would like to join this topic. In my opinion, Abramovich has shown short-sightedness that has decided to dismiss Grant. I may be an amateur in football, but as soon watch the match in Moscow and see how Chelsea changed the game in the second half. Only a very talented coach can break the game so the team! And the result is a penalty kick after ruletka.Mne very sorry that this happened. Grant on the field looked very lonely and no one was able to support it.

Meister 02.06.2008 22:42

not talk about football. All the same forum on the arts. By the way, this center is the Modern Art opens very soon - within a couple of weeks, if I'm not mistaken. Well, prepare to go there? It is interesting that there still will be, but Abramovich and Freud.

Евгений 11.06.2008 05:46

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 5656)
It is interesting that there still will be, but Abramovich and Freud

And I am interested in your opinion, the duo Dasha Zhukova and Roman, is a disaster for the market of contemporary art and nonkoformistov in Russia (Val fakes) or is not so scary?


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