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Мимопроходил 27.11.2009 21:29

Russian Museum has agreed to postpone the ancient icon in the church
 
Russian Museum proposed to move the icon of Our Lady of Hodegetria "in the church at the Mikhailovsky Castle, where she could worship the believers, and not send for the same purpose in the elite village near Moscow. This RIA Novosti reported with reference to the museum's deputy director for scientific work Yevgeny Petrov.

Transported to the year one of the oldest icons from the museum collection in the Alexander Nevsky church in the village "Княжье Lake on Thursday ordered the Ministry of Culture of Russia. Meanwhile, Virgin Hodegetria ", which dates back to XII - XIV centuries, Restoration is in critical condition, and because of this, not even in the museum. According to experts, if improperly storage conditions icon can be destroyed. According to Petrova, in the church at the Mikhailovsky Castle in St. Petersburg you can meet the desired storage mode. According to the deputy director of the museum, the icon must conserve until until a suitable method for its restoration.

The decision to grant the icon should take advice and stock restoration committee of the museum based on the conclusion of the expert commission. Ministerial and museum staff included in the commission, are already working in Knyazhey Lake. However, in the museum's department of the Ministry of Culture said that in the church of Alexander Nevsky already have a special capsule-case, which can temporarily display the ancient Russian painting. In Moscow in the capsules are stored two icons from the Tretyakov Gallery.

If the ministry's request to give a positive answer, "Virgin Hodegetria" (she's Toropetzkaya) will be in "Knyazhey Lake as early as Dec. 5, when there will consecrate the church. Previously, Kommersant wrote that initiated the removal of the icon can become an Orthodox businessman Sergei Shmakov, the president of a construction company, Peregrine Falcon, the builder of the village.

Евгений 27.11.2009 21:55

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 741332)
Earlier, Kommersant wrote that initiated the removal of the icon can become an Orthodox businessman Sergei Shmakov, the president of a construction company, Peregrine Falcon, the builder of the village.

Was initiated by Patriarch Cyril (wrote a letter to Min.kul)

gans 28.11.2009 01:27

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 741362)
was initiated by Patriarch Cyril (wrote a letter to Min.kultury)

Icon and the letter of the Patriarch.

Мимопроходил 29.11.2009 15:35

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 741362)
was initiated by Patriarch Cyril (wrote a letter to Min.kultury)

Kirill - the initiator of the formal. He, too, someone spodvig to migrate. Qui prodest. Think church cottage community is so important for all of Orthodoxy, that it was going to cover the patriarch himself, and then, contrary to the public and expert opinion, he insists on moving the icon museum piece, which is due to the risk of eventual loss did not exhibited? Or just someone very interested in the fact that when "Knyazhey Lake" had a "feature"? Use this word, because for the real initiators of the way it is, it is only capitalization. Initially, they do not care what will fichey, important - acceleration of sales. Pure marketing.

Мимопроходил 02.12.2009 12:18

Still selling. What's next - "Last Day of Pompeii" for a year in office Mordashov barter for steel?
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The Russian Museum has agreed to give the ancient icon in the elite settlement
 
Russian museum pass ancient icon of Our Lady of Toropetzkaya "for temporary storage in the church of Alexander Nevsky, which opens in the suburban cottage settlement" Княжье Lake. Told the director of the Department of Cultural Heritage and Fine Arts Ministry of Culture of Russia Ramazan Colo, his words RIA Novosti reports.

Nov. 30 Board of restoration of the museum and expert-Stock and Procurement Commission decided that the icon can be stored and displayed outside the Russian museum, if you will be provided with special conditions, in particular - the necessary temperature and humidity, said Kolo. The fact that the temple in the elite village has a capsule-case for storage of works of ancient Russian painting, it was reported previously. In addition, the arrival of the Russian Museum is ready to pay for the work of specialists who will monitor the status of icons, the official said.

Virgin Hodegetria ", she also Toropetzkaya, dates back to XII - XIV centuries and is in critical condition Restoration. In the Russian Museum said that because of this keepers opposed issuance of the icon, but were forced to surrender, submitting to the Ministry and given the personal request of the Patriarch Cyril. However, the term temporary issue has been reduced from one year to six months. Earlier, representatives of the museum offered a compromise: put the icon in the church, where she could worship the faithful, but not in a temple in the village elite, and in the church at the Mikhailovsky Castle in St. Petersburg.

The icon should be in "Knyazhey Lake is December 5, when will consecrate the church of Alexander Nevsky. Kommersant earlier wrote that initiated the removal of the icon could be Sergei Shmakov, the president of a construction company "Peregrine", which is engaged in built-up village near Moscow.

Евгений 02.12.2009 12:57

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 754672)
Sergei Shmakov,

Sergei Shmakov, the owner of "Peregrine Falcon, which built of Knyazhy Lake" - philanthropist, has funded the restoration of the Korsun Mother of God Cathedral.
Clearly, charity work, but at least something could be done for free, or an icon is a compensation for the restoration of the cathedral ..?

Allena 02.12.2009 15:39

"Княжье Lake is located in the Istra district. Also in Istra, is the Resurrection Monastery (New Jerusalem), the restoration of which is now intensified, thanks primarily to Patriarch Alexy II (light his memory!). During the war the monastery was destroyed by the monstrous, the same place in the monastic buildings are huge museum funds (the exhibition in the Tretyakov Gallery). If this is a unique (and for the church, and for Russian history and world culture), the monastery did not recover, then in 10-20 years will be nothing to restore. Return and Putin came, I think, last year, and now collect money for restoration. I do not remember the numbers you want, but it is huge!
Perhaps this fact also played a role in the history of the transfer of the icon?

Евгений 04.12.2009 06:35

Icon of Our Lady Toropetzkaya "was transported to the church of Alexander Nevsky, located in the cottage, on the night of Thursday, December 3. This RIA Novosti reported with reference to the statement of Director of the Russian museum Vladimir Gusev. According to him, to avoid possible provocations and to comply with the necessary precautions date transportation was kept secret.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.12.2009 06:50

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Icon of Our Lady Toropetzkaya "was transported to the church of Alexander Nevsky, located in the cottage, in the night on Thursday, December 3.
Aki thief in the night. (c) ;)

Кирилл Сызранский 15.12.2009 00:37

Museum - the monks, an icon - the oligarchs
 
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Museum - monks, an icon - the oligarchs

The Government has just two curtsey Church: Director Solovetsky museum will be local Archimandrite, and unique icon moves from the Russian Museum in the temple at the elite cottage settlement


The road to the temple leads through elite settlement
Minister Alexander Avdeev your order has appointed a new director FGUK "Soloveski Historical and Architectural Museum-Reserve" viceroy Solovetsky stavropegic Savior-Transfiguration Monastery Archimandrite Porfiri (Shutov). A director of a ministerial department of the cultural heritage of Ramadan Colo sent to the Russian Museum ultimatum proposal to spice collection, invaluable Toropetzkaya icon of the Mother of God (XII-XIV centuries). In the temple under construction near Moscow elite settlement Княжье lake that Novorizhskoye highway. Museum workers, do not even dare to restore the shrine - so it was shabby, under threat of dismissal was given an icon. For two documents shines white cowl patriarch Cyril.

«Multiplication fruits of the earth ...»

It is well known that the current, modern and energetic, the patriarch of the ROC MP in business and management. Let us once again to remember how he spent the dashing 90's, but we will not surprised by the multitude of business persons in the entourage of His Holiness. One of these persons, the head of holding "Peregrine" Sergei Shmakov, and turned to Cyril with interesting practical proposals - to bring back from the Russian Museum was built in the village elite businessman miraculous icon at the consecration of the same elite built their temple of Alexander Nevsky. Blessing headed by the patriarch, with the official church media emphasize that Shmakov, "known as a patron and benefactor. "Patronage" clearly sounds a note of the patriarchal letter to the Minister Avdeev on 24 November: "I beg you to consider the possibility of a temporary stay of the icon" Virgin Hodegetria - Korsunskaya in the replacement aisle Korsun Mother of God icon of the temple the Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky ... have to prepare a contract with Russian museum and pay for the work of specialists ".

No wonder, was not ready! This unique RPTsMP parish consists of one millionaire. Town Lake Княжье thought Sergei Shmakov as patrimony wealthy Orthodox patriots. Here's how to formulate this idea himself Shmakov: "When some old friends landowners gathered together to visit, whiled away with conversation and reading books long winter evenings. Traditions are still alive and now ... We do not build houses, we build a way of life. I think mandatory building in every village Sapsan Orthodox church. " In addition to the temple with six thrones (of Moscow and not) in the lake located Knyazhego zoo, helicopter landing pad for helicopters with garages, elite school, "President" and kindergarten "Golitsyn, medical centers, banks, restaurants, hotels. The lower threshold value of the cottage for the orthodox elite - 2.5 million dollars. Of course, the prevailing spirit-bearer style a la Russe, but using the world's best technology, import of equipment and materials. Apart Knyazhego Lake Shmakov built another 15 settlements of business class, not counting the projects in Chukotka, which he exercised, as the vice-governor of the Chukotka Autonomous District.
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As the website of the Moscow Business School (MBS), Sergey Shmakov was born in 1968, graduated from the College Instrument, and then founded a construction company. At age 24, became vice-governor of Chukotka, then converted to Orthodoxy and the father of six children. Perhaps, in addition to business and religion Shmakov Kirill motor sport brought them together - the future patriarch once confessed that he loves racing and fast driving, Shmakov same - absolute champion of Russia in rally-raids.

Studying the site Knyazhego lake, which describes all the charms of a peaceful and prosperous lives of the countryside, you know: "a unique church is proposed to the client as part of the" extra, all-inclusive. "We have all the best" - solid site. This applies to the religious life of "Lake of the princes, too well-fed, successful and prosperous. Spiritual nourishment residents? He carries an old man Eli, confessor Optina and it is rumored that the patriarch himself. Great dedication of the temple? Come, here's the patriarch himself. Shrine? Ancient wonder-working icon.

In the list of infrastructure Knyazhego Lake Temple took 11 th place. After the journalists interested in the availability of this facility for ordinary believers and representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate began to claim that the temple is open not only for residents of the village elite, but also for the people of neighboring villages. However, the official site Knyazhego Lake argues the opposite. It says that "in order to ensure a high level of security" all the infrastructure included in the "multi-level control system", including "Continuous monitoring of territory, patrolling the streets and detour, electronic control of the village perimeter.

The inaccessibility of the shrine in such a place for ordinary believers was one of the arguments against the museum staff transfer nouveau riche. Russian Museum offered to put the miraculous icon to the church of St. Archangel Michael at the museum, but neither the patriarch nor the ministry had not responded to this. However, if this whole story made the temple a little more than elite public, can only rejoice. However, the mass pilgrimage there still is not expected.

"Obviously, if you go to the temple tough citizens have great power and money, then consecrate their wealth to be a sacred relic, the corresponding business class - believes director of the Institute of Religion and Law Roman Lunkin. - It is not only part of the company's image, which shows that it really can be all inclusive, but also attract new customers during the economic crisis. " The reaction of museum staff and the general cultural circles of Russia, for the most part Orthodox, could become a good illustration of a healthy civil society, which cares for both President Medvedev.

Could be, but it did not - in the Russian Museum, whose staff in those days wrote a lot of open letters, ringing all the bells, goes Commission Ministry of Culture, which will detect the violation of the department of ancient Russian art - the main bastion of resistance devout nouveau riche. Although the icons in the museum is no longer (and probably never will), though the power of the law trampled on the museum collections, guilty of resisting the masters of life will still be punished.

An effective manager

But on the far Solovki conflict between the museum and the monastery was resolved without the noise and dust. Will soon be 20 years of trench warfare, so characteristic for other historical places in Russia, where the ROC MP wants all at once. Since 1991, the monastery gradually displacing the museum from its premises in the territory of the Solovetsky monastery, but museum workers delayed the restoration of historic buildings, it is technically complicated the design of their transmission. In fact, a remote archipelago, which is not always a message, it is difficult to regularly deliver materials and equipment, so that any work they are slower than on the mainland.

In the late patriarch of Alexy II on several occasions raised the question of attribution Solovki as a place of mass pilgrimage of the same status as in neighboring Karelia Balaam. With Ladoga archipelago forcibly evicted "worldly" people, and now you can get there only with the consent of the monastery. President Yeltsin at the time signed a decree on the transfer of only one island of the archipelago Solovetsky - Anzer - in his own church for 49 years. Now once a week for a couple of hours there run by organized groups of pilgrims. Samuel Solovetsky monastery continued to besiege the summer crowds of tourists, including foreigners, from which the monastery is almost nothing gets (at Solovki are several secular hotels and places for camps). When the patriarch Cyril announced his intention to be among the first to visit it Solovetsky monastery, it became clear: the top is a plan to remedy the situation.

In late August, had flown to Solovki Cyril is accompanied by a retinue - the ministers, governors and various benefactors, members of the board of trustees of the monastery. The Patriarch then uttered the mysterious words: "Solovki will occupy a special place in the life of the country and the whole of European civilization ... There will be church research center. A little over a month, and 11 October, one day, there were two crucial for Solovkov events. Museum Director Michael Lopatkin working on Solovki since 1976, was elected head of the local municipality, as a former treasurer of the Trinity-Sergius Lavra, Archimandrite Porfiri appointed governor Solovetsky monastery. Management Skills extensive Lavra economy and finances are very useful to the new governor, who became more and museum director. Obviously, on the basis of the museum and will create a certain ecclesiastical and scientific center of European importance (indeed, European tourists, especially Scandinavians, love to be at Solovki).

Museum staff, including the former director, refused to comment, but his official website has not been updated since the date of publication of the ministerial decree on Porphyry (Decree on the site, incidentally, is also no). At the same time the residents have already begun Solovkov problem: they were warned about the possible closure of schools and kindergarten, and a fuel tanker, after standing for some time in the Solovetsky harbor, so unloaded and returned to Archangel. Complete the story of a local resident's blog "Solovki» (http://community.livejournal.com/solovki/): «In the offices of the hospital hung icons. Around novice performing the role of nurses. On the children receive adult uncles come in cassocks and running around with their noses ... for my life in Solovki (which is 19 years old) never situation on the island did not cause such a sad, melancholy and a sense of utter hopelessness, it is now. And, even more so, never raised the question that our, so to speak, "payer" enterprises manage people from the church. "

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Recent developments, especially the story of the Toropetzkaya icon, significantly aggravated "systemic conflict" between the museums and the cultural sphere in general, on the one hand, and the leadership of the Moscow Patriarchate - the other. Last, with varying degrees of sharpness, makes it clear that the causes of conflict - in "nevotserkovlennosti" museum community. Now these arguments convince very few people. It is hard to find in Russia today, museum curator, who hated to Orthodox shrines and hidden from the people, including believers.

But a genuine restitution of church property can not speak up until it becomes clear that at the helm of the ship of the church is the elect people of the Church, and not corrupt protege nomenclature. Meanwhile, these "gifts" patriarchy nouveau riche and the assignment of entire museum collections, whose fate is often vague, they look like some kind of re-looting of church property and shrines. Now the hands of individuals, dressed in robes and received from the power of high-profile religious titles.

Alexander Soldatov
Solovki - Moscow
http://www.novayagazeta.ru/data/2009/137/12.html

Мимопроходил 23.09.2010 20:38

Who could doubt it?
 
Icon of the Mother of God Toropetzkaya not returned to the Russian Museum

MOSCOW, September 23 - RIA Novosti. The terms of temporary exposure Toropetzkaya icon of Our Lady of the Russian Museum in the newly-built suburbs of Moscow Alexander Nevski church near the village of "Princes Lake extended, told RIA Novosti on Thursday, spokesman for the Ministry of Culture Natalia Uvarova.

On the issue of an old and fragile image of XII-XIV centuries in this temple has insisted in December last year, the Ministry of Culture at the request of Patriarch Cyril, and request that, according to media, was initiated by the developer of "Princes of the lake," the president of group of companies "Peregrine Falcon" and patron, Sergei Shmakov. To store the icon was created climate capsule, which allows to maintain the necessary level of temperature and humidity, and her condition regularly assesses specially created for the occasion commission.

Father Vitaly Pelishenko, serving in the church of Alexander Nevsky, RIA Novosti has confirmed that the icon, indeed, is still in the "Princes Lake" and will remain there until March 22, that is another six months. According to him, the relevant documents were signed on September 21, although, according to one member of the Russian Museum, "The Virgin Toropetzkaya" September 22 expected back.

The story of Our Lady of Toropetzkaya "provoked a stormy public debate, from which it became clear that the representatives of the ROC welcomes the issuance of the exhibits of religious purpose of museums in temples, museum workers as opposed to this practice since ancient icons, usually distinguished by brittle, and withdrawal from storage with a special climate may adversely affect their status.

This week's first reading, the Duma passed a government bill on the transfer of property to religious organizations for religious purposes under state or municipal property, which is essentially concerned with immovable property and shall not affect the museum fund of Russia. However, the Union of Museums of Russia and the Russian Committee of the International Council of Museums insist on including a paragraph in the law under which the conclusion of the restorers and experts about the impossibility of preserving cultural object if it is used in liturgical purposes should write as one of the grounds for denial of a religious organization in getting the monument in the ownership or free use.

As Toropetzkaya Mother of God, also known as the "Ephesus," "Polotsk" and "Korsun", until the 1920's image is stored in Toropets in Korsun-Mother of God Cathedral. When the temple was closed, the icon moved to the local museum, and there have already sent in 1930 in the Russian Museum, where she became one of the oldest exhibits. In recent years, community-Korsun Mother of God Church, which is now restored, in particular, the means Shmakov, repeatedly appealed to the authorities with a request to transfer her ikony. /rian.ru

Pavel 24.09.2010 13:11

But sometime before the Revolution, the Russian intellegentsiya fought for the transfer of the icons of historic artistic value of museums to the restoration and salvation of the masterpieces of the barbaric treatment of them in the churches. It was rescued by Trinity Rublev literally saved and saved. It turns out an adder is the reverse?

Кирилл Сызранский 24.09.2010 17:25

September 21, 2010 in the open studio of Channel 5 was the transfer of "give all the churches?" at which one of the participants, Nevzorov was categorically opposed to any transfer of the Church of cultural and material values.
Glebych so otzhog that the clerics want to bring him to court for false and defamatory statements about the church.
 :D

тандем 26.09.2010 18:38

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Сообщение от "Pavel (Сообщение 1291561)
But sometime before the Revolution, intellegentsiya fought for the transfer of icons representing the historical value of art museums with a view to the restoration and salvation of the masterpieces of the barbaric treatment of them in the churches. So was rescued Trinity Rublev literally saved and saved. Grouse goes all the way around?

 Struggled, fought and doborolas before coming louts, and destroyed both the government and churches and the very intellegentsiyu.Ikony became "ceremonial objects" which were subject to merciless unichtozhniyu.Za rare exception of those declared objects of ancient art to fit into the context of the development of world civilization .
Bad - poorly вписались.Застолбились.Теперь process went obratku.Meshat he may or fools, or for personal gain. Give the church all of her toys. When they start to break down and disposed of consumption, the priests themselves will come running and will pray and promise good (for the most part of heaven - the church is the church) to fix and save.
And even if, despite all the efforts of the restorers, all these "causes" of the struggle between good and evil, an evil spirit, will turn to dust and chips story does not stop the memory of their presence in the physical world will remain as the left memory of the classic "Seven Wonders" of light Ancient World, despite the fact that out of seven - the Pyramid of Cheops, the only thing from "Wonderland", survives to this day ....
Priests also will only benefit - will be someone to blame and what obsnit perishability "incorruptible."

Кирилл Сызранский 10.10.2010 14:48

From an interview Nevzorov: The priests must go to work.
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- You said that the acquisition of the Church "bonus from the state" is dangerous, as these funds, it can once again be "buy the matches." What do you mean?

- When I say that is very dangerous to the Church of substantial financial aid, I mean that we should not provoke them to use those methods which are, in principle, consume. We see the aggression. We see the priest in the studio, who yells "Bite your tongue!". We see Nicholas Orthodox Burljaeva who calls me Sasha, read poetry to me, but losing the debate, running stitch denunciation to the prosecutor. You know, I have no reason to believe that the clergy seriously changed since the XIV century, when they burned and gouged out his eyes. Let us recall how recently they held a show trial by Moscow artists who successfully or unsuccessfully, I do not know, draw what they wanted to draw. We see how the prohibited to the opera "Tale of the Priest and his Worker Balde." We see the silenced anniversary of Leo Tolstoy, who was once anathema. We can see how on charges of devilry closed museum of Baba-Yaga in the Vologda region. And when such an aggressive structure, which is the Church, there are financial possibilities, there is also a serious possibility of influence on social life. In fact, they need to increase production capacity for the production of grace and its attendant accessories (we call them "magical"). This is a normal business.


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