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gans 20.11.2009 11:30

Killed in Moscow known priest Daniel Sysoev
 
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35-year-old priest was shot dead in the temple, located at ul Moskvorechye, 4, late on 19 November. A criminal wearing a mask entered the temple, where there were parishioners, and loudly asked the abbot by the name. When my father went out, the attacker, a young man, presumably, Caucasian, shot him in the head and chest from the 9-mm gun, and shot in the chest assistant abbot of 41-year-old Vladimir STREL'BITSKAIA then fled on foot from the scene. The two clergymen were taken to parishioners in cars to a nearby hospital, where Sysoev died on the operating table.

The most probable version of the murder of the abbot of the temple of St. Thomas in Moscow, Daniel Sysoeva is his missionary activities among non-Orthodox population. This is the Interfax news agency said a source in law enforcement bodies of the capital.

As the RIA Novosti news agency arrived at the temple of the head of investigation department of the UPC Russia in Moscow, Anatoly Bagmet, the basic version of the murder, on the fact that criminal proceedings have been committed on religious grounds.

Channel Interfax added that the recent father of Daniel, had received threats by phone and e-mail about the physical extermination of some extremist organizations, because of which even approached the FSB. "The latest threat came Sysoev in early October. Unknown phoned him and said that he was sentenced to death" - told the agency. In one version, the father could be killed by a sect of so-called "Slavic Neopaganism" Gentiles. As established investigators, shortly before the crime killer called the mobile phone to his father Daniel, to ascertain whether he would be in the church.

Priest Daniel Sysoev was known as a theologian, who was in constant dispute with the extremist branch of Islam. He was the author of such works as "Marriage to a Muslim" and "The Orthodox response to Islam". Father Daniel founded a school in Moscow street preachers, and also helped in the organization of the same school in Saratov, Ulyanovsk and Murmansk. The first threat, he began to receive an additional four years ago after a public dispute with a former Orthodox priest Vyacheslav Polosin, accepted Islam. In Daniel Sysoeva survived by his wife and three children.

http://lenta.ru/news/2009/11/20/murder/

site about. Daniel http://www.sysoev2.narod.ru/

Blog http://pr-daniil.livejournal.com/

Вивьен 20.11.2009 12:41

Just no words ...
Just last night studying the archives of Russian newspapers and magazines in 1875 and in "Modern Izvestiya in March found just such an article.
From Kazan reported: "Last year, noticed in the local monastery Fedorovsky some laxity of the monks there had been transferred from the Spassky Monastery elderly monk-deacon of good morals. He was entrusted with the brothers to cease to play tricks. And he played this his assignment to perfection, but, unfortunately, fell ill and died. But recently, someone to be, came word that the brethren, distressed for a strict supervision and not wanting to continue to obey him, beat up the guard to death. Now, the deceased had been dug and dug in the dissecting room, and were such damage bones, which leave no doubt that his death was followed by grievous injuries.

Тютчев 20.11.2009 16:12

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 721742)
Just no words ...
Just last night studying the archives of Russian newspapers and magazines in 1875 and in "Modern Izvestiya in March found just such an article.
From Kazan reported: "Last year, noticed in the local monastery Fedorovsky some laxity of the monks there had been transferred from the Spassky Monastery elderly monk-deacon of good morals. He was entrusted with the brothers to cease to play tricks. And he played this his assignment to perfection, but, unfortunately, fell ill and died. But recently, someone to be, came word that the brethren, distressed for a strict supervision and not wanting to continue to obey him, beat up the guard to death. Now, the deceased had been dug and dug in the dissecting room, and were such damage bones, which leave no doubt that his death was followed by grievous injuries ".

Let me ask, what's the connection between what happened yesterday and the fact that you have read in the archive? What is the context you want to form, linking these two facts?

наследник 20.11.2009 20:01

gans, God knows, this secret is to me a sealed book - what in the specialized forum & News to place such as yours?

I do not want to reproach you, then it is incomprehensible to me motive, on the contrary, there are people who just this and make shift ...
Instead, I ask this question for you because it was about you view as a man suspended in the extremes are not flowing.

 - Well, - I say to myself. - Man, this news has excited, he wanted to share it with others, to share as they say, emotional state, find the desired response.
But why is it that their condition is not expressed, reprinted the only news that has passed on all media, without exception? Why he did not pay attention to the exhibition "On the ball"? This is at least in theme.

 Well, - I say to myself - Well, let people like that - indirectly - has expressed its attitude to the problem.
But, again! Which problem? As in this case, the person hurt?
Not find an answer.
That is the message you can "roll out" for purposes of provocation - reject the outright.
 To increase the number of "thank you"? It is absurd for an adult.
To obtain a new rank? Do you have other options, your posts are interesting, informative.
 If you have something to say on the merits of artistic forum.

... I did not want to offend you in any way, believe me, now I'm unusually sincere.
I just thought of it that you can get the answer to this craze place incomprehensible to me on targets such posts.

Кирилл Сызранский 20.11.2009 20:05

R killed in Moscow known priest Daniel Sysoev is located in Gazebos. There is an explanation of what this Arbor: talk about everything that goes beyond the basic of topics.

gans 20.11.2009 20:42

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Сообщение от heir (Сообщение 723062)
I thought that it was from you can get the answer to this craze place incomprehensible to me on targets such posts.

I do not think that those who place no news about art has some special purpose. I think people just share information, and doing it on the forum, because many spend time here. I personally do so. I do not know what you have to say.
I do not mind that my topic would be removed, especially if they are not interesting, or "his state is not expressed, reprinted the only news that has passed on all media, without exception,".
Somehow.

наследник 20.11.2009 21:07

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 723072)
Talk about everything that goes beyond the basic subjects forum.

Let's talk about Kamasutra .:)

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 723202)
because they spend a lot of time here.

Here is what it is not clear - why should others announced that they already know?
I take the news with Yandensa and copy. I understand where the cause of Art. But ... about terror, death - why?

Вивьен 20.11.2009 23:24

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 722552)
Let me ask, what's the connection between what happened yesterday and the fact that you have read in the archive? What is the context you want to form, linking these two facts?

The forum is often talk about how it was good before, and how badly now. What people were morally purer and more spiritual without TV, brought up on good Russian fairy tales, and not on American cartoons. By placing this post, I would like to draw attention to the fact that it is always, at all times, under any form of government, were, are and will be people for whom nothing is sacred, if they can perform like that. And we should not talk about how good and it was easy before, but what to do in order to avoid such tragic events occur, because in essence, the clergy completely open and not immune to these situations. If anyone thinks I'm too snobbish I reason, let them express their opinions. Advance grateful.

наследник 21.11.2009 00:52

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 723612)
If anyone thinks I'm too snobbish I reason, let them express their opinions.

Snobbish style no one raised the question once was in another.
 
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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 722552)
Let me ask, what's the connection between what happened yesterday and the fact that you have read in the archive? What is the context you want to form, linking these two facts?

And here I join the Tjutchev, because the response from the Hans not received.
What's easier? Direct question - straight answer.

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Тютчев 21.11.2009 03:16

Incidentally, an interesting fact, Daniel Sysoev was an ethnic Tatar.

K-Maler 21.11.2009 05:38

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 723202)
I do not think that those who place no news about art has some special purpose. I think people just share information, and doing it on the forum, because many spend time here.

I also think that there is a certain sense. What is placed in the media, just "sounds in the air." Here the discussion is in a certain circle of people and can be discussed for a concrete opinion, maybe we are all interested, with whom we are communicating here, who we do something such, in addition to our involvement in the main theme.

Евгений 22.11.2009 16:02

On Monday, 23 November, His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, Kirill will participate in parting with the priest Daniel Sysoev, who died the evening of 19 November from the hands of an unknown offender.
In the morning at 10.00 in the temple of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul's funeral will Yasenevo priest Daniel, which is headed by Archbishop Arseny of Istra, vicar of the Moscow diocese.

After the funeral in the temple arrives Holiness Patriarch Cyril, who will lithium for the dead priest.
Then the priest Daniel Sysoev Kuntsevo will be buried at the cemetery of the capital.

Currently parting from his father Daniel goes to the temple of the holy Apostle Thomas, the rector of which he was.

http://www.sedmitza.ru/news/866416.html

gans 27.11.2009 10:15

"In memory o.Daniila"

His grin hiding under the mask,
The beast stopped at the church door,
And to him without any fear or favor
Quickly came the young priest.

Only a step away from the mysterious Meetings
Which he dared to dream,
For in this November evening
In it God's finger pointed.

Step one was the final line,
In fact, as he lived, and that said
And just below: "I am with you."
Period. "Assassinated father Daniel.

A postscript two lines other
Attributed it to the very edge:
"You would know, my dear,
It smells heavenly in Paradise! "

Natalia Antonova
http://www.mission-center.com/


Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 01:18

Вложений: 1
in Moscow killed the priest: he asked the killers not take a crap in the hallway
 
time of publication: December 22, 2009, 23:25
Last update: 00:07

 
, Rector of Ascension Church of the village satin Russian Podolsk district near Moscow, Archpriest Alexander Filippov killed. Information about the circumstances of the death until the coming contradictory. Filippov was killed by a shot in the heart - this, as Interfax-Religion, "said the widow of a priest my mother Elena.

"Father Alexander was killed only because he made the remark unsociable, who sent in the doorway natural functions" - she said. Now the priest was left with three teenage daughters. Father Alexander was 39 years old.

- Church: a measure of the level of relations in society

Meanwhile, according to the Moscow Patriarchate, the killer has been detained. "Interfax" referring to a law enforcement source confirmed that for a murder suspect detained two men.

"Two drunks trying to go to the toilet in the wrong place. Passing by Alexander Filippov made them a note. Drunken visited him in the doorway and shot out of hooliganism," - said the source.

Detain the suspects in the murder has "hot pursuit". They were 35-year-old local resident and 28-year-old native of the Vladimir region. It also confirmed the Head of Information and Public Relations suburban Moscow police department Eugene Gildeev.

Another law enforcement source told the father of Alexander made the remark company, is in the courtyard of his house. "The priest was no robe, but in ordinary clothes," - said the agency. In response to a remark he was pulled into the entrance of his house, where they began to beat. Source said that the residents of the entrance called the police, who detained the suspects. He did not confirm the information that the priest was killed, saying that his father Alexander died as a result of beatings.
Church: a measure of the level of relations in society

New murder a priest - a serious signal to society, said the Russian Orthodox Church. "The human mind is just stiff from such evil, when a person becomes a victim of blatant outright anger. All the events of recent months should be seen by all of us very seriously," - said the head of the Synod of the Information Department Vladimir Legoyda.

"Of course, all people of the Church will now pray for the souls of the father of Alexander. Terribly aware that as a result of this senseless malice man was killed, children orphaned, families destroyed," - said the head of the Information Department.


In turn, the deputy head of the Department for External Church Relations of Moscow Patriarchate monk Philippe (Ryabykh) believes that "another terrible event that happened in Russia, in this case indicates that the level of relations between men in society has fallen so low that people are incapable of normal , in a civilized way to respond to the comments of their loved ones. "

"It is significant that in this situation was just the priest. In modern Russia, indifferent people are just the clergy and all religious people. They have shown active citizenship and seek to improve our lives, to make it more beautiful, brighter," - said his father Philip.

However, he said, as a result, it appears that such attempts and desire to meet with resistance and, moreover, turn into death for these people. "


This is the second for the last month of the murder of an Orthodox priest in the capital region. November 19 shot in the head, was killed rector of the Moscow church of the Apostle Thomas, the famous missionary, Father Daniel Sysoev. Overall, since 1990 in Russia were killed 25 Orthodox clergy.

http://www.newsru.com/religy/22dec2009/protoierey.html

Posav 23.12.2009 01:24

Let he rest in peace ...
Someone very much like the society in which the driving forces of self-centeredness, the cult of power and profit. What is now surprising and hands to breed. This social policy implications.


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