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belmar 19.11.2009 12:06

Who is the author?
 
Вложений: 3
canvas /oil 19h23
alleged origin - before the war, Peter
signature is in the lower left corner, unfortunately unreadable.
thanks
Вложение 489021

Amateur 19.11.2009 21:48

Masonite (in the West it is called the Masons) was invented in the United States in 1924, actively produce and use it as a building material began there in 1929 in the Soviet Union began its use after the war, so that pre-war origins of your pictures is unlikely.

vyadem 19.11.2009 22:36

here in this topic discussed the issue with hardboard.

"We have to use it after the war started in about late 50's, when adjusted manufacture. But that does not figure! Same met the pre-war restoration work done on hardboard, for example Burachek (1871 - 1942). Tobish canvas in the Soviet Union was before the war ... "

олег назаров 20.11.2009 01:06

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 720792)
Tobish canvas in the Soviet Union was before the war ..."

There was a can and has been, but was more primed canvas and it especially nobody wrote. .... meaning nebylo.

наследник 20.11.2009 01:51

When I wrote that the author would have to search for someone who in their family dabbled in painting, the message was immediately removed. But this was leveling to determine the name of the artist, the main question of fasting.
Here me now and wonder if admin will remove arguments about hardboard.
Upstream of the Lord! This sentence is not to your address, do not be offended .:):):)

vyadem 20.11.2009 11:55

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov (Сообщение 721072)
There was a can and has been, but was more primed canvas and it especially nobody wrote. .... meaning nebylo.

agree ... but sometimes the zipper gets in one place 2 times ... sent from the West parcel, was dismantled on fanerki and wrote a picture ... here is anyone's guess and guess :)

Кирилл Сызранский 20.11.2009 12:07

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 721462)
sent from the West parcel, was dismantled on fanerki and wrote the picture ...

"From the West parcel? Before the war? Hmm ... Then it's time for the picture will remain, NKVD fist banging on the door too ...

олег назаров 20.11.2009 12:12

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 721462)
here is anyone's guess and guess

I think the picture is not worth it ....

redbor 20.11.2009 13:01

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 720792)
.... met the pre-war restoration work done on hardboard, such Burachek (1871 - 1942). Tobish canvas in the Soviet Union was before the war ..."

Sure was. Masonite - is one of the trade names fiberboard (fibreboard). This story of the appearance of fiberboard is as follows:
 In 1858, the American Lyman was obtained first patent for the production of fibreboard (MDF).
 In 1864 a scientist named Munch created an installation for production of plates without binder, with the help of hot pressing.
 American Mason in 1924, only perfected the method of producing fiberboard, quite by accident. The scientist had gone previously turned off the steam valve for hot pressing, but because of the failure of crane pairs continued to act in the press. Returning, Mason found in the installation of the slab is very high-density fiberboard for having called this his name mzysonitom.
 Thus since 1870 possible picture on fiberboard.
 In the USSR, widely used in the 1960's.

vyadem 20.11.2009 13:19

redbor, it's already been discussed in the topic to which I gave the link above :)

redbor 20.11.2009 14:54

Ссылочку I had not noticed. Just discussed.
 Moreover, information about the appearance of hardboard in the late 19 th century known.
What doubt?

belmar 20.11.2009 17:07

Thank you very much, gentlemen! Now, if I have any questions on hardboard, I will know whom to contact.

наследник 20.11.2009 18:06

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Сообщение от belmar (Сообщение 722622)
Thank you very much, gentlemen! Now, if I have any questions on hardboard, I will know whom to contact.

Well said!
I would be "a catchphrase," oboznachayuschm qualified help .:):)

Amateur 20.11.2009 22:38

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Сообщение от belmar (Сообщение 722622)
Now, if I have any questions on hardboard, I will know whom to contact.

But an interesting fact. Of course, I have no way to generalize, but nevertheless all the pictures and sketches I have ever seen, and which were written on hardboard from 1939 to 1949 (about 10 - 15, all British, Danish or Swedish), were written on the side with relief. He primed with, and then paint, with relief, issuing through the paint layer, as if imitating the structure of the canvas. In our time writing on the smooth side of the hardboard. Can anyone say why "changed direction" and when this happened?

наследник 21.11.2009 01:00

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 723532)
why "changed direction" and when this happened?

The British, Danes and Swedes were written on the side. Russian - on this. Maybe they did not know that this is wrong: 0
R ... What a ... knowledge-based!


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