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gans 28.10.2009 18:57

Smuggling of antiques: that being taken through the Ukrainian border
 
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Domestic demand is growing largely stable currency - the art and antiques. This year, Customs smuggling of cultural and historical values, 1,4 million UAH.

Student Alexander Danishenko, who had just arrived from Germany, stopped at the customs control zone Boryspil airport and asked to open the suitcase. It was established 228 notes: German marks at the beginning of the twentieth century and the Japanese yen in 1953. At the flea markets of Europe, such bills are not expensive - about euro apiece. In Ukraine, they can help several times. However, Customs does not hurry to give the nod to import: In addition to the person, they may have historic significance. To cope with this, the customs officers came to the aid of art Alexander Predybaylo controller.

In the customs history of studying art academies throughout, and at checkpoints without staff, experts still can not do. Their task - to identify the old books, gold ornaments, or icon, and determine whether to import or export this thing without special permission. Over the past 8 months, Ukrainian customs prevented 123 attempts to smuggle items of cultural and historical value. The leader of the illegal "imports" - notes and coins.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.10.2009 19:02

That's even kill, but I can not understand why import-then on, sorry, in Ukraine should not cultural values or, more precisely, it is possible, but with the "draconian"%%tax on imports??

Jasmin 28.10.2009 19:17

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 668496)
art controller Alexander Predybaylo.

He is an electronic robot! How can he be interviewed???: O

gans 28.10.2009 19:35

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 668516)
That's even kill, but I can not understand why import something on, sorry, not in Ukraine cultural values or, more precisely, it is possible, but with the "draconian"%%tax on imports? ?

odd situation of course. To address such issues was established Guild of Antiquaries of Ukraine. http://ru.gau.kiev.ua/

uriart 28.10.2009 19:40

This is our Ukrainian DEBILLIZM!
In all its glory!

allexx 28.10.2009 19:54

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Elementary logic suggests that at least allow the import of tablets Hammurabi, although the mummies of pharaohs, though masterpieces by Caravaggio - in the interests of the state of Ukraine.

And how, pray, explain this one passage in the article:

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 668496)
In April Ukrainian woman trying to bring in Ukraine 11 engravings and 5 icons, bought in Paris ..... A month earlier, a citizen of the United States brought to our country almost a thousand coins, "The examination showed that over a third of them have cultural and historical value", - said Mr. Vasilenko.

And that these people - criminals? Well, what idiot would make such a conclusion, eh? At most, what can blame them - an attempt to evade payment of 44\%duty. But to accuse them of importing "cultural values" can only degenerate.

NATA NOVA 28.10.2009 20:06

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 668576)
This is our Ukrainian DEBILLIZM!
In all its glory !!!

You may laugh, but I was in Borispol (in August), long friendly conversation "about my 15 kg (22 and 10holstov canvas 30x40-50x60 cm.) Various" fast "opment.
It was a lot of (neotnosyaschihsya to the case in my opinion) strange questions.
After 15 hours of the road (from which the air only 3 hours), after the usual sinister turn passport control was quite well out of place ...
Council: No wicker suitcases, no new cardboard boxes out of which either; no ekstravagansy anything. Gray, very modestly, obychnenko Neprimetnenko ... .. poor little - forgot to add ... (tudno, I understand, but fewer problems)

29.10.2009 17:47

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 668626)
no ekstravagansy anything.

So fly aircraft - it is already "ekstravagansa" for 80%of the population of Ukraine.

Fed 29.10.2009 18:16

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 668516)
I just can not understand why import something on, sorry, not in Ukraine cultural values or, more precisely, it is possible, but with the "draconian"%%tax on imports??

It's not so easy, the problem is not a tax, but in the mysterious phrase "cultural value". Therefore, we must prove that the object is not so in the exporting country (while being in the Ukraine) to please the price. If the price does not fit, then compare it with the "same price": eek: and a tax to pay for this is unknown what price. And that I have described only a part of and clearly, why not wait for the interest structures.

29.10.2009 18:45

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 668566)
To address such issues was established Guild of Antiquaries of Ukraine.

Alas, stillbirths organizatsiya.Vse began and ended with empty declarations - concussion vozduha.Da and why they have these laws do not zanimatsya.Dlya pisany.Glavnoe - to be in power, and thus the money, which means - if vlasti.Vse that should have taken out in private residences in London and Parizhah.To that bought at auction for the borders of the Plague (as they call each other Ukraine), and settles there.

NATA NOVA 29.10.2009 18:46

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 669783)
So fly aircraft - it is already "ekstravagansa" for 80%of the population of Ukraine.

I am also not a daily transport (I can not stand). On the hour fly-5 o'clock queues (farce majeure were) not give the same opportunity to 20kg of baggage for a most expensive ticket-me all the way over the toad 5 kg underweight choked-could Used more pictures 10 small or 5 more to )....
By the way, exploring alternative ways of traveling, studying ...
At airports, for so long have to expect that during this time the bus probably can almost reach ...

Марина13 30.10.2009 10:19

Antiques import and export better train! A customs officer to look intently into her eyes, then he rarely looks in the suitcase:) How have repeatedly proven that the icon at the bottom of the suitcase, vserhu lot of clothes, wants to dig - it is necessary to ask when he last washed his hands. The most he could ask for - a phone number, you can leave the left:)

NATA NOVA 30.10.2009 17:26

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Сообщение от Marina13 (Сообщение 670732)
need to ask when he last washed his hands.

Gloves (disposable), they must be. While in Ukraine we are even in the morgue, they bought (among other things on the list.)
But without gloves, even to touch her things do not resolve it! Also me "gulnyu found" ... (But usually they are asked to open and lay out his most "bebihi") ...

Pecheneg 01.02.2010 00:52

Art Kaleidoscope
 
Not more than a week ago, I got the icon from Denmark .. At customs they kept me 4 o'clock ... The two customs, one of them "anti-kontrobandoy and one employee of the SBU ... Besides, I had to give them your passport, identification code ... even demanded to correspondence (with translation) from the auction to confirm that the icon was purchased rather than stolen ...... and only after paying a fee, I gave the icon.


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