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Мимопроходил 27.10.2009 16:41

Old work, n /s
 
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Gentlemen, please help in the assessment and attribution. They brought me a job - without provenance, 27H22, canvas duplicated. Requested more money than I am willing to offer. But people want to buy and all here ... Maybe, my greedy eyes can not see the true value of this painting? Help to buy:)

наследник 27.10.2009 16:53

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 664916)
Help to buy

Mimoprohodil, but what about in order to help get rid of illusions? :)

Кирилл Сызранский 27.10.2009 16:53

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 664916)
Help to buy

How many have asked?
It is possible in the l /s, I want to compare prices "there."

sergejnowo 27.10.2009 17:11

Mimoprohodil, I think most end of the 18 th - early 19 th century.
In some places I like very much - just an amazing face. In some places not very much, - the hand, hair, around the bush.
By price, as his finger to the sky, it is difficult. In Germany, from 800 euros to 2000 euros.
add an amendment to Russia
"Twist" around the recent similar operations may be slightly older.
"Pure" n /x goes away, usually up to 1500 euro. If N /V is more or less seriously "assigned" to a decent school or the author can be multiplied by two. The work was signed and by the middling sort, from 5000 euros.
I must say that asking more, but for no longer sold, but the crisis.:)

Мимопроходил 27.10.2009 17:22

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 665086)
... Places I like very much - just an amazing face ...

His face, and then hooked. According to figures given by you convinced that my proposal was adequate sellers situation. Thank you!

олег назаров 27.10.2009 18:43

duplicated very poorly and photos can be seen to be done peredublyazh frame .... good:) but at the prices sergejnowo said all 500 on restoration

ANTIK 27.10.2009 19:52

Look at the hand! terrible oshibka.Ruka nowhere

Мимопроходил 27.10.2009 20:27

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Сообщение от ANTIK (Сообщение 665426)
Look at the hand! terrible oshibka.Ruka nowhere

I initially generally had the feeling that this piece and the hand belongs to someone else.

наследник 27.10.2009 21:07

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 665526)
I initially generally had the feeling that this piece and the hand belongs to someone else.

Why first? Explicit fragment. Because duplicated and canvas.
AH, is easy to deceive me, I'll DECEIVE RAD (s)

sergejnowo 27.10.2009 21:21

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 665526)
hand belongs to someone else

but as there is a "live", not men, whether it's hand by accident?: D

Вивьен 28.10.2009 01:36

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It is a hand. Just poorly written. Color in clothing and facial expression - a clear image of the Virgin Mary by Catholics. Often, instead of a combination of green and red is blue and red.

наследник 28.10.2009 02:21

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 666796)
Color in clothing and facial expression - a clear image of the Virgin Mary by Catholics.

On the picture you provided - yes. In the picture above - no. Such impure colors you will not find on any image of the Virgin Mary. About face silent, everyone puts their feelings.

28.10.2009 12:05

This or a similar picture is discussed at the forum.
The second half of the 19 th century, the guild email (hence not strong in hand), calculated for consumers with average incomes in Poland, eastern Germany, western, and Left Bank Ukrainy.Vyrezan fragment from the pictures on the Gospel as temu.Vyrezali could not drag the whole picture.

раскатов 28.10.2009 12:18

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 665526)
I initially generally had the feeling that this piece and the hand belongs to someone else.

Yes, I agree that this fragment is cut from the picture. Likely Italian school. Von undoubtedly colored. Such things happened in the late 18 th century during the French Revolution. When destroyed paintings on religious subjects. Probably for the sake of a masterpiece, cut out all seditious and pririsoval hand. Let us look in comparison with Raphael, at least.

наследник 28.10.2009 14:30

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Сообщение от rolls (Сообщение 667466)
Probably for the sake of a masterpiece, cut out all seditious and pririsoval hand

Cool! And where the rest masterpiece?


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