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Eriksson 20.10.2009 22:19

Very strange Burning Bush
 
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Here - acquired on the occasion of a strange icon.

This Kupina somehow not traditional red diamond.
According to the canons, in the rays of the red diamond symbols of the Evangelists are depicted in green lozenge between the rays are written incorporeal forces and the saints, and me - only the green diamond with the stars ...
This is such a school or "forgetfulness" house painter made a mistake?
Size: 37h30 see

I tried to find online something similar, but without success ...
Who understands the icons? Look!

Кирилл Сызранский 20.10.2009 22:21

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 652966)
This is such a school or "forgetfulness" house painter wrong?

It's just a "simplified" Akhatist.
Your icon is so-called "krasnushka" or "village". Shorthand, in one word. Or really quite scientific "folk icon," "primitive" ...

Eriksson 20.10.2009 22:22

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Another photo ...

Eriksson 20.10.2009 22:23

Cyril Syzransky, and when both written and where?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 652996)
It's just a "simplified" Akhatist.
Your icon is so-called "krasnushka" or "village". Shorthand, in one word. Or really quite scientific "folk icon," "primitive "...

Cheap, eh?

Кирилл Сызранский 20.10.2009 22:25

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 653016)
but when it is so written, and where?

Your-end 19-th, and written in the villages of homegrown icon painters throughout Russia.

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 653016)
cheap, eh?

How do you say ...
I'm such a hands do not take, because once I hear: "I give ..." Where it go?
Their machines are brought to the Vernissage.

But! In Europe, some just such an icon harvests, but quietly, and then find out and overwhelm them.
Sometimes there is a very interesting instances where the baby just for some flourish like or funny loschadki written (in the Flora-laurels, for example, Modest /Laurus /Blaise /Flor) ...

Eriksson 20.10.2009 22:39

Hmm, yes, "they are terribly far from the people" ...
I feel mean, of course.
Well, that enthusiasm is not bought - it seemed to me funny, as you say. If the child drew.
Let them now my mansion fire guards, once such a thing.:)

K-Maler 20.10.2009 22:41

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 652966)
Uchami written incorporeal forces and the saints, and me - only the green diamond with the stars ...
This is such a school or "forgetfulness" house painter made a mistake?
Size: 37h30, see

This icon is a bit like the Bulgarian icons. Secondly, there is, like, all of the canon: the stars are also symbols of ethereal forces. Four Evangelists are present, the red too much. And it is highly covered with linseed oil, probably ... If cleaned correctly, then the colors will be others. She's good, do not hesitate ...

Кирилл Сызранский 20.10.2009 22:44

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She's good, do not hesitate ...

Yes, good.
I do like Kupina-Kupina All Who Sorrow and joy, loved bringeth with BM.

Eriksson 20.10.2009 22:52

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Cyril Syzransky, by the way, about horses.

I want to take your awareness again.
Look at this Conqueror. As I understand it, is a Greek icon, is a pity that with the loss. I personally liked the horse.
Decent size - 58h32 see
Has value, do you think?

Кирилл Сызранский 20.10.2009 22:56

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 653176)
has value, what do you think?

It is, if it is not replica. And the replica appears.

Eriksson 20.10.2009 23:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 653206)
has, if it is not replica. And the replica appears.

Similarly, no replica.
Very old.
Traces inept restoration. I bought a "teapot", type in "penny".
We ought to take pictures correctly, but is now too late, it's time for the side.

K-Maler 20.10.2009 23:18

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 653226)
chno, not replica.
Very old.

Unlike modern replica: a miracle-like monster down there on purpose you can imagine. And the head of the hero is also not easy ...

Марина13 21.10.2009 12:17

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The "Burning Bush" was written in s.Holuy (Ivanovo obl.Yuzhsky rn) and refers to kon.XVIII - beg. XIX centuries. There krasnushek they produce up to 2 million a year. Canons guys simply ignored (strongly Thorpe), so the absence of a red diamond or other lyapy in this school are frequent. This was not amateur artists, as there was a workshop, and in 1805. in Kholui was opened artistic uchilische.Naryadu with cheap krasnushkami rural written and precious icons of very high quality. And the preserved prorisyam and nalepkam seen that the figure they owned.

Eriksson 21.10.2009 12:35

Marina13, many thanks for the qualified certificate!
That's what productivity have been the people - one village "spank" manually 2 million copies a year! It's mad! At this point, obviously, not the canons, they were ...: D

Кирилл Сызранский 21.10.2009 16:16

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Сообщение от Marina13 (Сообщение 653926)
The "Burning Bush" was written in s.Holuy (Ivanovo obl.Yuzhsky rn) and refers to kon.XVIII - beg. XIX century.

What an enviable accuracy in the dating and place of writing icons.
Where is deducted pro Holuy?
There is a view among some experts in the art-environment, but it (opinion) is highly questionable, because such a "primitive" was much everywhere. By the way, and in Palekh icons are written, but everywhere, I repeat ...
And you have to Ukraine, too, as can be read and a classic.
Meanwhile, his daughter, a beauty at all
village, stay at home, and his daughter probably will smith, a mighty man
and even where the young man, who the devil was against his father's sermons
Kondrat. In his spare time from the affairs of a blacksmith and worked malevaniem
reputation of being the best painter in the circuit. Sam even then
L. .. long live the captain called him to purposely in Poltava
paint the wooden fence near his home. All the bowls, of which
dikanskie Cossacks gulped soup, were daubed blacksmith.
Smith was bogoboyazlivy man and wrote parts of the image of the saints: and
now still be found in T. .. his Luke the Evangelist Church. But
the triumph of his art was a painting, painted on to
wall of the church in the right vestibule, in which he depicted
St. Peter's Day of Judgment, with keys in hand
Banishing evil spirit from hell, scared the devil tossed in all
hand, in anticipation of its destruction, and concluded before
wicked beat and chased him with whips, logs and all than any
horrible. At a time when the painter was working on this door with a picture
and wrote it on a large wooden board that features all the forces
tried to prevent it: pushed by unseen hands, rising from
forge in the smithy ashes and sprinkled it now, but, despite
all work was finished, the board entered into the church and built into the
the wall of the porch, and since then the devil has sworn to avenge the blacksmith.
(c)
: D: D: D
Maybe talk about the Ukrainian "people's" icon?
   In Kievan Rus icon painting engaged mainly visiting foreigners (Greeks), but over time, its local artists, which, although they learned from the Greek masters, but in the perception of the divine is still largely remained pagans. Especially it should have been visible in the peasant, the national environment. Unfortunately, the most ancient naive works, come down to us, relate only to the XIII century. This icon of "Protection" from Eastern Galicia, which is stored in the National Art Museum of Ukraine.
But after centuries of pagan themes did not disappear completely, they continued to live, especially in sculpture, and even in the twentieth century were visible in the remote areas of the Carpathians and Volyn Polesie. They can be judged from the carved crosses and icons, which are still to this day used in churches Hutsulshchyna, Boykivshchyna, Polesie, Podolia.
Or you do not Crimea-Ukraine?
Then say no more ... : eek:


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