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Parmenio 30.09.2009 21:24

Seeking information about the Soviet artist Nikitin (wrote Central Asia)
 
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Dear experts
Seeking information about the artist named Nikitin, judging by the signature Nikitin existing in my paintings.
Neither one of Nikitinyh found me in the database is a site, it does not fit ...
The pictures of small size are depicted urban species in Central Asia with the participation of local people. Judging by the style of the image - this is (according to my assumptions) - late 20's or 30's. Maybe you will correct me, because this is just my feeling.
Recently in this forum to find information about that in June in Moscow held an exhibition of artists of the Stalin period, whose works were the subject. Unfortunately, my interest in our scenic assets in June was asleep, so the show I missed. Maybe my Nikitin included in the category "other artists" whose works were represented at the exhibition?
I shall be very grateful if you can tell me anything about this artist, or you can specify the source where I can find information. Market quotations of this work I was of course also interested in ... : p
PS Perhaps this is irrelevant postscript, but I want to help me with information. Discussion of the artistic merits of the picture is not the subject of my post. Thank you!:)
PPS Signature engraved with a picture of another picture.

Parmenio 30.09.2009 23:09

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Continuing. Here are found on Sovkome picture of the artist Nikitina AA

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Could it be he? Like and hroologicheski fits ... And thematically, too - people in some kind of environment ... And the signature right below visible red color ... And why not evolve to the battle for the harvest?
Not getting warmer?

Евгений 01.10.2009 06:38

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Сообщение от Parmenio (Сообщение 626526)
Soviet artist Nikitin. Wrote Central Asia

In Central Asia (Samarkand), lived and worked for a famous artist George N. Nikitin (1898-1963).
Works in the museums of Tashkent, Nukus.
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p /s The painting urban landscapes east of the country, but it is not, Tashkent, Samarkand, is not just another country closer to the Muslim North Africa.

Parmenio 01.10.2009 09:30

Thank you, Eugene.
This is already something. It remains to see at least something from the works of this artist. In the Internet did not find anything. Also mention that name with years of life.
I agree with you that the picture presented is associated more with the Maghreb countries than with our Central Asia ...
But two other small images (one on the canvas, one on the board) Middle doubt. On the one on the canvas, behind even pasted with newspaper editorial on developments in the cotton harvest.
How do the photo, be sure to lay out.

Parmenio 01.10.2009 21:55

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That is until just this picture image size 30H23 cm on the board. Unfortunately, the picture color was very distorted. In fact, the overall tone pictures warm, with a mysterious flecks of sunlight ...
Just wanted to show that the images here seem to be a resident of the local Uzbek ...
Most of the works etogohudozhnika I like the sun. In this picture - the sun relaxing, caressing, warm ... The other (no photo) through the piercing blue of the cold shade of a sense of wonder the scorching midday heat ....
Well, anyone can tell me - it seems to work Georgy Nikolayevich Nikitin?
Ran online - in all these Russian artists in Central Asia and the turbulent artistic life in this region in 20-30-ies this person is present, but no pictures not found!

01.10.2009 23:19

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Сообщение от Parmenio (Сообщение 627906)
Just wanted to show that the images here seem to be a resident of the local Uzbek ...

To start - these pictures were written by different hudozhnikami.Eto obvious.
Then - to Central Asia, they do not have a relationship, but to the Uzbeks, and even more so.
  The first - a typical street in old town in one of the Arab Mediterranean countries of North Africa - Morocco, Tunisia .. Seems also to Aden or Sana'a (Yemen).
Second - India and Ceylon.
This is evident in architecture and clothing depicted in the pictures of people.
Why they have signed, but also in Latin script, one name - a question to the signatories.

Parmenio 02.10.2009 10:48

Thank you, Slava.
I am not a connoisseur of African and Indian ethnic details. I trust your opinion.
But "all чудесАтее and чудесАтее" ... It seems so said Alice from Wonderland ... Very entertaining!
Do not wait to dig in the garage of a third picture with the same signature ...
And to continue the investigation!: Cool:

Allena 02.10.2009 11:12

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 627956)
The second - India and Ceylon

Okay.

suppose, that the author still one. Then the signature together with the roman subjects suggests that the author probably had emigrated after the revolution for chance was in North Africa and India. These people were a great company.

How and why the paintings came to Russia? Returned? Nothing and not sent to the camp? Or send?

Parmenio, you know anything about the existence of these paintings? How did they get to you? If from some collections, what else was in this collection, you know?

In any case, quite clear: if the signature belongs to the time of writing (by the way, it is established? "), Then wrote these paintings were not in Russia. Clipping could it appear at any time.

02.10.2009 12:59

Allena!
The first picture is not signed.
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Сообщение от Parmenio (Сообщение 626526)
PPS Signature engraved with a picture of another picture.

This is a souvenir picture is probably brought from the Mediterranean cruise and has nothing to do or to "Nikitin" no second kartinke.Foto both pictures taken from a day online auction such as a hammer.

Allena 02.10.2009 13:12

VYACHESLAV, the answer to all problems lies in the provenance. Sami picture information give a little, but probably a Parmenio there is reason to attribute all the pictures to one author, but we simply do nothing about them do not know. And I would like to know:)

02.10.2009 13:32

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 628496)
the answer to all problems lies in the Provenance

Leave, I beg of you - what provenance!
Honestly, I'm surprised at you.

Allena 02.10.2009 13:40

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 628526)
leave, I beg of you - what provenance!
Honestly, I'm surprised at you.

It is possible that you are right! But let's wait until the distinguished author of the theme answer all questions.

Parmenio 02.10.2009 13:56

Dear Allena, Vyacheslav,
You, as a connoisseur, of course know best - and the quality of painting, and paintings belong to a single author or not, and whether the hammer or not. I do not argue. I am not an art, in painting do not understand, and to your community do not have a highbrow attitude.
All our pictures (I have already contacted here for help with the attribution of one painting, and here on the forum it is also called the originating from a flea market) have the same origin. Several years ago we bought them abroad. The gross. One lot from the heirs of a deceased professor. I have his name, and write that he lectured at the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, and whether in Bucharest, or in Budapest, I do not remember, had not looked into this paper. I always confuse them (Bucharest to Budapest). For these ordinary people, away from high areas, the main value of the inheritance handed down was a huge mansion on the outskirts of a major south-German city. So that was inside the house, they did not "steamed". They had to quickly leave the house with all fixtures located inside the house to sell quickly.
It is banal provenance. Such grandparents, and such Russian there in Europe a lot. Of course, we bought a "pig in a poke." Moreover, they themselves are far from these areas. But our "investment" is already fully paid off. Some paintings we have sold quite well. And now I decided to deal with some "dark horse" ... Including this mysterious "Nikitin" th.
PS The first picture is the same signature is present in the lower right corner ...
PPS Where the picture was from my grandfather - I do not know. All records of the collector were simply thrown away.

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I can not resist, not to speak out more about your favorite "provena'nse. It is tempting to pronounce that word with a French accent ...
I am sure that serious professionals of the market can not take the notion seriously. For the professional operators in your market is the usual marketing tool to get more profit from selling their goods. And it is designed to manipulate the buyer. But not each other.
What percentage of truth in the provenance, which sold paintings at auctions? And what percentage of the truth such as the biographies of politicians, for whom their public biography of the same provenance? And how many percent truth in advertising the goods? etc. and TP
Even I can not really hesitate to invent some plausible biography for any pictures, and a proof that this is true ...

Allena 02.10.2009 14:39

Parmenio, the attribution of work - this is usually long and complicated process that requires time and study the vast amount of information at first glance unrelated to atributiruemoy picture. And the study of the history of existence of the picture, where it was kept as a hit to the present owner - that is all that which is composed of provenance - is usually the most important part of work on attribution. Moreover, it is often provenance allows you to put the final point in the investigation. And sometimes, as it is in your case, provenance is the basis of the investigation.
 
Let's understand. Russian author's last name written in Cyrillic, plus Indian and North African subjects, plus the origin of works from a single collection, based in Europe - all this gives grounds for the initial assumption that the author - Russian, and, as I said, Russian emigrant, whose fate in the world shook. Immediately determine the artist's complicated. Special artistic education he probably still does not exist; primary, might have been. And perhaps we are dealing with products capable of self-taught.
Furthermore. After all its ordeals artist settled in Europe - possibly in Germany, and perhaps in Hungary or Romania (Budapest, or Bucharest). If the collection were works of more well-known authors, it is perhaps the only way to study - read their biographies, letters, acquainted with their creativity. Perhaps in this way you will find among their friends of a Russian Nikitina. For example, you notice that among the authors of your paintings for a few people at one time lived in the same town, were familiar, perhaps, formed a kind of artistic society. Then it is logical to assume that the collector was interested in works of representatives of this community and, perhaps, Nikitin also belonged to it.

Pay attention to the subjects and manners of other paintings from the collection: paintings by analogy Nikitin and works of famous artists you can also tell where to look Nikitin.

Among Russian immigrants was a lot of people who have left the picturesque heritage. Among them are well-known names, but most of those who were known only to a narrow circle of acquaintances. I think "your" Nikitin refers precisely to them. So much work is waiting for you.
Here at the forum, there is everyone: sometimes a portrait of an unknown model or unknown author restores the original names. Many times it was that the arguments of the forum helping newcomers not to fall into the hands of fraudsters and refuse to purchase questionable even in the photo works.

But the "highbrow community" - is not Grabar Institute and expertise center GTG. We see the work only in photographs, usually not very good quality, so try to help the least, so that to determine the search path directions , and expert advice with signatures and stamps issued in another place. Good luck to you in your research.
Best regards,
Allena

02.10.2009 14:42

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Сообщение от Parmenio (Сообщение 628606)
you do not have highbrow community relations

A pity.
Maybe then I would not confuse Bucharest to Budapest.


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