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Eriksson 30.09.2009 15:44

Russian or Italian?
 
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Gentlemen
Doubts I am bombarded with ...

There nezvestnogo painting artist - oil on canvas, 47h40 see, the old frame and subframe, cracelures minor loss, otherwise condition is very decent. According to the seller, it is a Russian work of the mid-to late 18 th century.
And to me something of the Italian dreaming ...
What do you think, experts?

sergejnowo 30.09.2009 15:56

For me, as a suggestion - Hungary.
Italy has not so don `t see, but who knows.
What is not Russia, that's for sure.

Allena 30.09.2009 16:10

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 625936)
Russian work of the mid to late 18 th century

If the Russian (in that very little hard to believe), then a pensioner. I, too, sees something Italian.

uriart 30.09.2009 17:09

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Eriksson, correctly imagining Italian.
It is Italian.
This work Nef, was sold last year in Germany.
Is there a lot of Italian, but the Russian more!

мистер-у 30.09.2009 17:23

URIAT
 
This work is hanging at my friend in St. Petersburg, the size of visual 180 * 130cm, the native frame for how much he bought did not ask awkward as-to.Vy not remember?
During the Neff entire Russian painting was Italianate, pseudo stil.A submitted work that you just "bomb".

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If this is the work of Russian artist, then it can be dated to mid or late 18 th century, while Russian artists do not pisali.Smotrite closely, if you want to try to relate this work by Russian artists, it should be dated to the second quarter of the 19 th century, the beginning of the third quarter, not later.

наследник 30.09.2009 18:19

A very Neff can be called a Russian artist? Called him in Russia Timofei Andreyevich, but it was something was called Charles.
Perhaps this duality is seen in the present paper ...

uriart 30.09.2009 18:36

It is awkward to disclose someone else's input prices. Yes I bought and bought.
He was more fortunate than me, although I played until the last moment.
It really bomb work!
Then he was sorry that I stopped. And then think, well, broke up I would take her even more. So? Who would be better? Only the auction.
And that work had gone to Russia, so I was happy.

мистер-у 30.09.2009 18:40

URIAT
 
Can return you to the trade mark-up!: Shy:

uriart 30.09.2009 18:43

Thank you!
Need to think.
On price write to lichku

Eriksson 01.10.2009 07:49

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Сообщение от Mr-y (Сообщение 626136)
This work is hanging at my friend in St. Petersburg, the size of visual 180 * 130cm, the native frame for how much he bought did not ask awkward as-to.Vy not remember?
At the time Neff entire Russian painting was Italianate, pseudo stil.A submitted work that you just "bomb".

For the "bomb" thank you, of course!:)
You mean that your friend is exactly the same job, only much larger? Or is there more differences? At artprayse like there is no such large canvases Neff ...

uriart 01.10.2009 07:54

Eriksson, the size of kotoruya showed 148h117sm
If Peter is hanging size, it is certainly different.

Eriksson 01.10.2009 14:12

Yes, I agree with the parent speakers:) - by Nef very much like ...
And who are foreigners, wrote such a la Russe? There are considerations?

redbor 01.10.2009 17:01

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 625936)
Lord!
The doubts I am bombarded with ...
  me something of the Italian dreaming ...
What do you think ,..?

Look, here is not with the team reaper?
Clothing - it seems that, in one selmage bought.

uriart 01.10.2009 17:13

redbor, a copy of the famous work Venetsianov.

redbor 01.10.2009 17:24

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 627646)
... a copy of the famous work Venetsianov.

Perhaps, though it is written that it uchenka A. Tyranova http://bezh.asobezh.ru/bezechane/tiuranov.htm
  But what a difference who painted. The question was not about the author.
And once reaper almost identically dressed, there is a chance that they were from one village?


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