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privatis70 30.09.2009 15:16

Help with advice
 
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Help with advice. Can someone greeted like. Silver figure bone. Height 12.5 cm garnet stones and pearls. At the bottom of the figure of the inscription. It is the stamp 84 and the triangle. I understand this passage Russia customs in the early 20 th century. Thanks in advance.

sergejnowo 30.09.2009 15:45

make a clear photograph of the inscription.
There probably Dutch or some similar language that is written.
Read:)

privatis70 30.09.2009 17:22

help with advice
 
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Take a picture.

Amateur 30.09.2009 18:04

See:
http://catalogue.gazette-drouot.com/....jsp?id=173505

Like?

privatis70 30.09.2009 18:10

help with advice
 
Just about one in odin.No not understand how I use ssylku.Mozhet will tell you the time and price in the catalog?

Amateur 30.09.2009 18:26

Type in Googlr "drellche" and you will come to an external site directory, but for some reason I have it not opened. Price - not specified. And the language of the inscription to me, alas, is unfamiliar. NOT German, English, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Dutch, Finnish. Although the German fairy tales of foxes present on behalf of the Reineke, but here it probably is not relevant.

Perhaps experts emblems will prompt something?

sergejnowo 30.09.2009 20:38

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Сообщение от privatis70 (Сообщение 626236)
You will tell the time and price in the catalog?

The work was not sold, Lot 93 http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache... & gl = de
Maybe there is a polyglot, which translates literally "REINEKE DAM DRELLCHE CHOLLHED", but it seems to me that this company name manufacturer.

privatis70 30.09.2009 20:42

Unfortunately not even determine the price, which was exhibited for the lot.

sergejnowo 30.09.2009 20:52

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Сообщение от privatis70 (Сообщение 626466)
Unfortunately not even determine the price for which exhibited lot.

In Europe, the outcome of auctions, laid out a simplified plate, in one form or another, for public viewing.
If a sum, - the selling price. If nothing is worth - not sold.

Евгений 30.09.2009 21:35

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Сообщение от privatis70 (Сообщение 625886)
Help with advice.

Perhaps this is a medieval reliquary.
The subject is very interesting and expensive.

privatis70 30.09.2009 21:51

. Presumably 16-17-18 vek.V Guimet refused to do ekspertizu.Net analogov.Poetomu wrote on the forum, maybe somebody seen such things in the living in Russia.

Amateur 01.10.2009 09:56

This - hardly a medieval reliquary. In the description of the bust of the ladies from a link written "façon reliquaire", ie "in the style reliquary. But this style was in vogue in the XIX century - in France at the end of its first half, and in Germany - a little later. Is the Middle Ages hallmark "84"? sergejnowo, probably right: the inscription "REINEKE DAM DRELLCHE CHOLLHED" (the last word, I think, should read "CHOLTKNED") means, apparently, the names or pseudonyms DIY manufacturers. And maybe some rare dialect type verhnebavarskogo. Also, I believe, and "MINDENK", though this seems to be in Hungarian means "everyone"?

Евгений 01.10.2009 10:04

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 627016)
Is in the Middle Ages hallmark "84"?

Alexander, the sample placed on the western silverware when crossing the border with Russia .. (19 beginning of 20 century).
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Сообщение от privatis70 (Сообщение 626576)
Supposedly 16-17-18 age

The fact that your reliquary belongs to this period, the probability bolshaya.Tsena depends on the time izgotovleniya.Postaraytes more accurately determine the time of manufacture ..

Amateur 01.10.2009 10:59

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 627036)
sample placed on the western silverware when crossing the border with Russia .. (19 beginning of 20 century).

Eugene, surely at border customs posts (as some of them were ...) had their equipment to determine the purity of precious metals and staff who had the right to brand products, which originally were not on trial? Not know. Well, let's say. But in the Middle Ages there were no common standards for the content of ligatures. Even the coins of one denomination and one ruler varied considerably in purity. More or less clear standards appeared in the XVIII century (and then, by the way, reliquaries in medieval style was not in vogue). So anyway, it is unlikely that medieval reliquary would be made of silver, just 84-second sample, which in this case verified proof house customs.

NEO 01.10.2009 15:02

Good day! It is a beautiful thing!
It occurred to him - do not beat strongly :-))) not the Pope whether it?


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