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vit 17.09.2009 23:24

Please help me find the author and the date of engraving
 
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Again I ask the head light to intervene. Solid mystery. In inete no hint of the author and portrayed. Premaxillary engraving. Sheet size 25,7 cm by 41,5 cm The size of the imprint on the facets 31cm to 19,8. Thin, grayish paper, such as Agate. Ie to the light and the vertical length between the short transverse lines, the structure of the watermark. My unprofessional assumptions: 1 Austria, Czech Republic, Germany?? 2 Judging from the nature of the wig and a simplified modeling of forms, lack of imitation of the material surface, as compared, for example with Wortmann, dare to sin at the end of 17 beginning 18. 3 Probably the shield in the center of the bottom, the documentary has a heraldic origin (?)
I'd love to hear the opinion of competent people: shy:

Вивьен 17.09.2009 23:46

Joseph Vandalinus - name portrayed. Information about him only on sites in German and Polish languages. Try searching there.

Tana 18.09.2009 01:42

vit I think the name of the engraver (bottom right) Simon Thade engraver (more of his titles) and the name of the city Cologne-a Cologne, Germany (sorry, this ends my knowledge of German), so refer to someone who knows German, they will be able to transfer more than I am.

vit so that your Josephus Vandalinus is referred to in this catalog of manuscripts, I think he military, (the electronic version here in Polish):


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...= f & oq =

See Full text of "Katalog rukopisow: Oprac" (on my computer it freezes)

so that you remain with a translator all this to master, as his titles are written in my Latin well, and vobschem "poguglite" is not all that difficult, you just need to look.

vit 18.09.2009 01:59

Tana Thank you! Already did all the clearer. From dating to another: shy:

Tana 18.09.2009 02:18

but here and there engraver: Simon Thade. Sonder-mayr graveur de S. A. S. E. de ...
  (See the search engine:
  Full text of "Bibliografia polska" (Stolecie XV-XVIII) (where specified period of 15 18vek, so I think your engraving no later than 18 th century):
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...h & meta =

also can not open it, can you get.

vit 18.09.2009 02:46

Tana also can not open it, can you get.

The same Tana, which is open snatches.
But I went through this 3 weeks ago. No change: (

Allena 18.09.2009 09:36

vit, the forum is a great specialist in engraving, heraldry, military, etc. Wait until your engraving see Wladzislaw, and then read it and be surprised:)!

Amateur 18.09.2009 09:50

Simon Thaddeus Zondermayr (Simon Thaddäus Sondermayr) - draftsman, engraver and publisher of books. Born in Augsburg about 1700, was court engraver Elector of Cologne (kurkölnischer Hofkupferstecher). The main works performed during the period from 1725 to 1750 in Germany.

See website: www.bildindex.de/kue00280914.html

Information about him is not enough. There is mention of some of his published books and prints, which are dominated by different types of architectural structures.

Here:
http://www.virtuelles-kupferstichkab...4745b2cc905dc3
You can look at some of his prints.

vit, but where is your almost five meter engraving?

vit 18.09.2009 10:25

Thank you Aiiena and Amateur!
Scanner right now hastily pochtipyatimetrovyyofort fragments. Sew in Shope will not be long: D

vit 18.09.2009 11:28

Вложений: 5
Here 1 /6 part. Seems etched bar akvatinta. When skaniruesh with Max. bit. visible graininess typical of aquatint. He no facets and fields. Roll edakii.

раскатов 18.09.2009 11:31

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This well-known personality in the history of Jozef Vandalin - Mnishek (1670 - 1747), Marshal of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Poland 1712 -1713,
This is another portrait of him.

Amateur 18.09.2009 12:28

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vit, I dare to assume that your long panoramic engraving - demo tape from the device, which was the forerunner of cinema, and in Russia called "Rusk". See, for example,
http://dob.1september.ru/article.php?ID=200400311

Quote from there: "Listing the fair entertainment, not to mention the Amusement panorama or kosmorame, popularly called briefly" Eden ". Small portable panorama was a" small Arshins in all directions box ", painted in bright colors that can be decorated with figures , flags, or even a weather vane with the words "World kosmorama." He shifted to his own belt and placed on a folding box. The box bigger transported on two-wheeled cart. On the front panel of the panoramic box was usually two round window with magnifying glasses , through which one could consider different pictures (there are panoramas and windows with 3-4). are demonstrated pictures or panoramas were painted on a long ribbon (strip), which is wound inside the box with a roller (roller) on the other . ".

Find and image of the device, which can be seen as a showman turning the handle of the drive roller (you can say "turns the movie ":)).

vit 18.09.2009 13:28

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 610186)
Simon Thaddeus Zondermayr (Simon Thaddäus Sondermayr) - draftsman, engraver and publisher of books. Born in Augsburg about 1700, was court engraver Elector of Cologne (kurkölnischer Hofkupferstecher). The main works performed during the period from 1725 to 1750 in Germany.

See website: www.bildindex.de/kue00280914.html

Information about him is not enough. There is mention of some of his published books and prints, which are dominated by different types of architectural structures.

Here:
http://www.virtuelles-kupferstichkab...4745b2cc905dc3
You can look at some of his prints.

vit, but where is your almost five meter engraving?

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 610186)
you can look at some of his engravings.

I found, thank you! Interesting

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Amateur, there at http://www.virtuelles-kupferstichkab...4745b2cc905dc3 to add. Information on all prints are one and the same dates 1720-1747. That is, (do not speak German) to read as dates of life?? Then in the 50th, he could no longer work because of death. Or I did not understand ...

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Amateur, it seems that "Rusk"
There and then some more festivities and celebrations ...
A date probably mozhnopo Costume riders. They always appear what you dragoons:)

Amateur 18.09.2009 15:30

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Сообщение от vit (Сообщение 610746)
to add. Information on all prints are one and the same dates 1720-1747.

This is a tentative date of creation of prints. Exact dates of birth and death Zondermayra, unfortunately, is unknown.

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Сообщение от vit (Сообщение 610746)
Amateur, it seems that "Rusk"
There and then some more festivities and celebrations ...
A date can be no doubt Costume riders. They always appear what you dragoons

You do not think that "Little Eden" - it was always something nizkoposhibnoe, followed by "raeshnymi" jokes. There were quite expensive devices for individual use. They start up a key mechanism that controls both the rotation of rollers, and music box for sound view. Rollers with panoramas and rollers for the muses. boxes can be changed - that this kind of "video player":) was in the XIX century. Once a few years ago I saw this device on eBay'e. Those who had money in those days, such a device, and had a taste: he was not satisfied to normal in the iris image of "Bear was fighting a goat, and your view would fit perfectly. It appears, depicts a festive meeting of the people of troops after the campaign against Napoleon (?) Or just some people's celebrations. When it was done? Complicated question. Somewhere from 1814 to 1917

Allena 18.09.2009 15:32

There are some inscriptions. vit, whether they could be bigger scan?
All very fine, and all go in different directions, but it seems that the compositional center - a carriage with two ladies in hats with feathers on the 4-th picture. So?


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