Do I have a chance?
 

Gentlemen Show you whether I have a chance to return the pictures of my grandfather, an artist, NK Krasnov (or part of them) who are in the local museum of Penza. They had been brought there by truck my parents as useless (it was in about 1976-77 year). And now pictures of my grandfather began to appear at auction. It's a shame!: Mad:

Anatoly's grandson and great-grandson Nikita (called
in honor of his grandfather, Nikita Karpovich)

vasya85, I think is unlikely ... unless you have legally obtained prove that at the time your parents are incompetent ...

Now for this "fashionable" to share with the heirs of works of art that have come to museums unexplored putyami.Ya somehow sure that the museum and the parents properly documented did not make anything.
vyadem,

vasya85, so contact the lawyers. Let regained good. You, as an intelligent person, do not say these fields directly in the eye: give, they say, is that the parents gave you, without receipts, at the bazaar so expensive!

This excluded. Remember sacramental: "Socialism - is, first of all, accounting and control."
Consult a lawyer for the property relations for assistance. But keep in mind that the first question he will ask you about ... value of these paintings.

You must go to the museum to learn the situation, and then gadat.30 years, orphan, pictures could not be in a museum, it is not private sklad.Shansy zero.

Able to prove that the painting sold at auction is transferred to the museum?

list of the paintings were sent iznachalno.Poetomu can not say that the picture of muzeya.U my brother left for a little sketch of deda.Vse else was exactly are dumped in the museum's storerooms.
        But if the museum is out of paper from my parents that they donated all of these can kartiny.To pobodatsya, I think so.

OK, let's say that the museum is not markets.
And you have them? You can prove that they belong to you? Can challenge the right of ownership to them?

I agree, "as superfluous," sounds not in favor of enforceability, but also to write something that was not deposited nado.Peredacha involves drawing up an appropriate instrument, in duplicate, with a list of the stored, shelf life. And all this is assured by a notary. Such records No, and invent - a vredit.Nachinat be with the rights of the museum at the pictures. And to do this correctly to make a claim for recognition of the rights of citizens to inherit the artistic heritage deda.Esli court will not refuse, and recognizes the next step - the legality of stay in the museum . The court will request a complete list of museum pieces of the artist and documents in possession. If the museum does not submit the documents, the court may decide in favor of the plaintiff - naslednika.Zdes must take into account that the museum is the state. 'll Have to make concessions. But to do this is to reach, not spending enough money ... The most expensive civil case - imuschestvennye.Kto pays - that's right.

vasya85,

I would recommend you first search of the survivors of former employees of the museum and they know if you remember, as was the case.
The museum could not "accept the gift of" painting from a private individual in the Soviet era. I know this from personal experience with a painting by JS Kopina.
The museum was obliged to buy them at least for some money that had been reporting in spending the money. Money from the Ministry and spend it on some of the museum workers without a command from above could not.
Therefore, they could buy a piece of work for a very low price, and the second part enter in the books as a "gift".
In any case, as mentioned above, the museum must remain some papers.
You must be "on-quiet" to meet with the chief curator and ask whether there are any documents on these pictures.
However, in turbulent times adjustment all the papers (or part thereof) could be eradicated in order to work have been orphaned - they were then easier to steal.
In general, this issue must be approached with extreme caution, "intelligence":) and then act according to circumstances.
I would have advised to "find" witnesses, friends of parents who would have confirmed that the paintings were put on deposit.

... And imagine how the whole country rodstvenichki, grandchildren and great-grandchildren to museums rush to pick up the work of their ancestors ... the half-empty museum, littered with the work of the judge:) It all began with "good advice" on this forum:)

Art-ort,

I think that parents vasya85 acted improperly in relation to the creativity of the artist.

Inheritance. Your parents were heirs to the "first stage", ie they could dispose of the inheritance and ordered to convey this to the museum. Ie paintings became the property of the museum, which the grandchildren can not claim. Witnesses confirm this transfer only. Paper is likely to have. Design "on deposit" could change the case, but it probably was not ...

vasya85, there is such a forum "Intelligence and law" - a forum of legal aid "You try to ask your question there.

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