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sergejnowo 18.08.2009 20:19

Schloss-Ahlden, 12/13.09.2009
 
Catalog autumn auction auction house Schloss-Ahlden online.
http://www.schloss-ahlden.de/lo/index.php?Topic=1600
Traditionally, a lot of Russian.
Interesting but find only Lot 1482, http://www.schloss-ahlden.de/lo/obje...12402&om=s, Sergei Gerasimov (1885 - 1964)

SergeiSK 18.08.2009 21:45

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 556476)
Traditionally, a lot of Russian.

And a lot of traditionally forged. Perhaps with the exception of three paintings - this Gerasimov (very, very similar to the present), one painting Klever-son (also can not believe it was him) and now this portrait by an unknown artist. On examination he has a GTG, which states that this portrait of a young Peter the Great and the school of Russian court painter Ivan Nikitin (about 1690-1741). Estimate 6500 euros.

sergejnowo 18.08.2009 21:53

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 556646)
And a lot of traditionally forged.

This is typical of many German auctions.:)

Кирилл Сызранский 18.08.2009 22:03

Gerasimov serious: Öl /Lwd.; R. u. sign. u. dat. 1949. 82 cm x 139 cm. Rahmen. (141124)

SergeiSK 18.08.2009 22:05

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 556686)
This is typical of many German auctions

Agree. But nevertheless the case that occasionally come across a very good thing! And it happens that the Germans were attributed to them as unknown Russian artists. And you can find almost a masterpiece:)! That's like this. Sold to Peter Karbstein as unknown.

sergejnowo 18.08.2009 23:08

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 556716)
Gerasimov serious

Interestingly, how do go away.: rolleyes:
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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 556736)
And it happens that the Germans were attributed to them as unknown Russian artists.

God forbid such atributaram health. Through them and prosper.:)

Кирилл Сызранский 18.08.2009 23:25

sergejnowo, they still write- signature in Cyrillic.

U_Z 20.08.2009 01:50

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 556736)
I agree. But nevertheless the case that occasionally come across a very good thing! And it happens that the Germans were attributed to them as unknown Russian artists. And you can find practically a masterpiece! That's like this. Sold to Peter Karbstein as unknown.
   

Excuse SergeiSK, and who is the author, who bought and for how much? Pts. interesting! Not really something Lebedev (beginner can make mistakes, he was forgiven :-).

jurineo 20.08.2009 07:13

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Cyril and what the commercial potential of this Gerasimova?

SergeiSK 20.08.2009 08:18

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 559416)
Not really something Lebedev (beginner can make mistakes, he was forgiven :-).

Not mistaken, this is Claudius Lebedev, attributed to German auction as an unknown artist. The remaining issues without comment. One thing I will say that I talked to Peter Karbstein before the auction. They asked me how I can give for this picture. My sum them did not work:)

Евгений 20.08.2009 08:52

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 559506)
attributed the German auction as an unknown artist.

Sergey means they had reason to etogo.Durakami Germans should not be considered, especially since it is an open auction (this work was viewed hundreds of experienced, professional collectors, Art dealer) .. At the auction (on the cheap) will miss only the dubious work.

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 556476)
Interesting but I find only Lot 1482, Sergei Gerasimov (1885 - 1964)

I agree with you, if Gerasimov work is very good.

SergeiSK 20.08.2009 09:19

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 559526)
fools of the Germans should not take

No fools, and they did not consider. Just poboku of our art, they are in their specialists. And not for nothing that they asked how much I pay for this now. Perhaps one of the hundreds of collectors and prompted them to its author. When the published results of the auction, then this picture was not there. She sold before auction for approximately $ 30000-40000 euros.

jurineo 20.08.2009 09:40

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 559576)
None of fools and did not believe. Just poboku of our art, they are in their specialists.

True 100%

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A little more info on this painting Gerasimov.
Basically he wrote things small size and the average auction price for them was within the limits 5000-8000 Heb. This picture is of a much larger format. Estimate at her, according to auctioneers, initially maximum. Moreover, this pattern has held for about three years ago through the same auction house and was sold at the peak of interest in the Stalinist academics at remarkably high prices - for 17800 EUR. Taki case.

Кирилл Сызранский 20.08.2009 12:29

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Сообщение от jurineo (Сообщение 559496)
Kirill, and what the commercial potential of this Gerasimova?

So how much does he still goes to look.
But the potential is, of course.
Size, good year-70 years, Stalin:), and most importantly, the Kremlin, a good thing for the office interiors, the hall of negotiations, for example.

Евгений 20.08.2009 12:54

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 559786)
But the potential is, of course

Agree, the potential investment is not small.
Do not like it, only one, what to write about him in the annotations of the picture.
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Biography of Sergei Vasilyevich Gerasimov (1885-1964).
From the site ARTinvestment.RU:
http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/1528/biography.html
From site B. Maslovka:
http://maslovka.org/modules.php?name...age&pid=81


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