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иринаром 17.08.2009 19:23

Julius Klever?
 
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If these photos though as it will clarify avtorstvo.budu very grateful. But money to get re not very. But I tried. If you just do not understand anything with a signature ..... try again.

Евгений 17.08.2009 19:28

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Сообщение от irinarom (Сообщение 554486)
Caught in a stupid mortgage. Grandfather with Peter has helped not stay on the street. I gave a picture with words, something they say is the earliest Yu Clover, said this to you enough not only to repay the mortgage debt, but a good rest abroad as a family. And the family I have not malenkaya.Ya thought that my grandfather had gone mad. Is this true ???

These stories tell a different place.
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At the forum looking for information:
Please describe in detail the maximum proposed now for the following parameters:

1. By.
2. Material and equipment manufacturing (oil on canvas, paper, pastels, watercolors, lithographs, oil, pencil, etc.).
3. Size (horizontal x vertical for painting).
4. Creation Time (1899 /beg., Mid-twentieth century. Etc.).
5. Captions, labels, stamps, birochki (if any - need photos).
6. Condition (breakouts, talus, scrapes).
7. Expert opinion (if available) - the organization name of the expert.
8. Qualitative picture pictures back of the painting, photo captions (if any).
9. Origin of the picture.
10. Any other information, useful for the attribution of paintings

SergeiSK 17.08.2009 19:43

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Сообщение от irinarom (Сообщение 554486)
grandfather with Peter has helped not stay on the street

I like merry old! Here at the forum, too, is the same there:)
For these photographs difficult something to say about authorship. Take a picture and signature larger pochetche. And the photo fragments the picture itself. While the authorship Klever doubtful, not his style, though the work itself is old and the back is an inventory number.
Regarding the repayment mortgage and a bonus for this holidays abroad - do not flatter yourself. Even if this is Clover, it will suffice for a vacation in Sochi:) The mortgage will have to look Repin:)

Тютчев 17.08.2009 19:52

Early clover can see here:
http://www.art-catalog.ru/gallery.ph...;id_artist=103

Necessary expertise. If you want to sell expensive. What would be enough for an apartment and rest. :) Yes, and please keep in mind that an apartment in Moscow just not enough. Despite the crisis. But try to make the examination, I think worth it. Who knows. Such a thing without papers do not sell.
Eugene and SergeiSK are right, little information. Complex picture, but try to be. Requires a serious examination.

ANTIK 17.08.2009 19:56

If that 1000 will give the tanks, please call or write.

иринаром 17.08.2009 20:02

Yes, my grandfather .... gay and in the literal and figurative sense. his 89 year secondary and our cash equivalent for it is not clear. On the mortgage must sobrat.pomimo this picture is still TSIGUS P, P BOGDANOV.A on vacation in Sochi there are a number of famous Georgian artists.

vadim 17.08.2009 20:03

If that 1000 tanks ladies, call, write


Class!
Similarly, our man!

иринаром 17.08.2009 20:09

With words. Yu Clover.
cardboard. oil.
28-Height 44cm-Width
again with the words 1877. signature in the lower left corner "ROZH" on the reverse side nomer84983 condition good. except baguette.
SPSIBO you for information.

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Your??? Who???

Игорь Гурьев 17.08.2009 20:56

No it is not clover.

Provincial polulyubitelskaya copy of something the third quarter of the 19 century.

Price Drouot - 150 euro (and if you leave).

иринаром 17.08.2009 21:50

Surely painting, artist unknown, even nearly 200 years ago is just like a cup of good coffee??? surprising

Eriksson 17.08.2009 22:39

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Сообщение от irinarom (Сообщение 554676)
really painting, artist unknown, even nearly 200 years ago is just like a cup of good coffee??? amazing

Where is that cup of coffee pulls 150 euro? Half a world traveled,
but these passions are not met ...
A picture is very average, the people, as always right. And 200 years ago, and 300, and BC hack, Facelift, and more than just amateurs lacked.

иринаром 17.08.2009 22:47

Eriksson, the conversation is not about coffee ... thanks for the people

Игорь Гурьев 17.08.2009 23:11

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Сообщение от irinarom (Сообщение 554676)
really painting, artist unknown, even nearly 200 years ago is just like a cup of good coffee??? amazing

Probably as a good cup of coffee over two centuries ago?

And what about you, vserioz think that if 200 years, it ... So what?

That picture Pimenov one month ago was sold, the bad, late, went for 75 thousand ( "Creation" or something like that).

Here's just different.

Not in the bicentennial.

By the way, the picture is not 200 years, and a hundred hvostegom.

иринаром 17.08.2009 23:24

Igor Guriev I understand that this is not the age, and Values.
This site is very interesting "people" did not want oskarbit. But nothing useful I have not received. Some smiles and smiles. Thank you all !!!!!

Тютчев 18.08.2009 01:16

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Сообщение от irinarom (Сообщение 555066)
Igor Guriev I understand that this is not the age, and Values.
This site is very interesting "people" did not want oskarbit. But nothing useful I have not received. Some smiles and smiles. Thanks to all !!!!!


     
  irinarom, in my opinion you have given enough information. For more accurate information needed higher quality photos. But I again advise you to make examination of this picture. If you do not know where and how to do it, and ask.

Sincerely, Fedor Tyutchev.


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