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Konstantin 13.08.2009 15:04

Unusual memorials Russia
 
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Podnatorev on monuments abroad, decided to subject our Russian soda. As it turns out they are, and interesting, and funny, and quite a lot. The terms of communication at the forum great - let's stand as interesting monuments.

Journalists have compiled a list of the strangest monuments of Russia

1. Permian monument "Permyak - salty ears".
2. monument to love dogs in Krasnodar
3. plumber in Omsk
4. cucumber Lukhovitsy
5. "Major Kovalev's Nose" in St. Petersburg
6. "Enema" in Zheleznovodsk - this is certainly cool in Zheleznovodsk now go with caution, and then how ....
7. "Keyboard" in Ekaterinburg

Черномашенцев Владимир 13.08.2009 15:10

Rybinsk, Russia
 
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1) The only monument in the Union VI Lenin in warm winter clothes and a hat with earflaps, and not with the cap.

How rybchane joke (?) Or rybnichi (?) And Rybintsev!,:

Lenin in "winter"!


It is said that this monument came to sculpt sculptor from the Caucasus. Perhaps, with the South Caucasus. And so cold in the winter in Rybinsk, that he decided to warm Ilyich.

Moreover, Lenin in Rybinsk stands on the old pedestal, the remainder of the monument to the king. He climbed, so to speak, not in its place.

Who else, but I believe that such a sin to demolish the monument.

2) The only monument nameless boatmen.

Konstantin 13.08.2009 15:19

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2) The only monument nameless boatmen.
Very serious, more on the Yermak Timofeyevich or Stenka Razin like.

SergeiSK 13.08.2009 15:29

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 545006)
a list of the strangest monuments of Russia

But the monuments on the streets of Sochi:
1. Horse in an overcoat
2. Photographer
3. Dogs
4. Plumber Mihalich
5. Cat and mouse
6. Student
7. Bench reconciliation

Allena 13.08.2009 15:38

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 545066)
The only monument in the Union VI Lenin in warm winter clothes and a hat with earflaps

Not only. In Yaropoltse near Moscow, where there was an estate Goncharov, stands a monument to Lenin and Krupskaya.

Grigory 13.08.2009 15:40

Chief of radiculitis
 
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In Kostroma is a monument radiculitis: D: D: D

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Konstantin 13.08.2009 15:50

In Lenin took over, Paul you do not have to.

Allena 13.08.2009 15:50

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In my opinion, the ugliest of the modern monument in Moscow - is a monument Vorovsky. While in Moscow, so much in recent years ponastavili that does not keep track of everything - maybe that is pourodlivee (mean monuments to people, not characters or cheese "Friendship").

And the best - a monument to Sorge.

NATA NOVA 13.08.2009 15:56

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 545346)
In my opinion, the modern ugliest monument in Moscow - is a monument Vorovsky

Why? Never before seen, but without the laughter and the response will not look great, right before your eyes are weak, (squats), and the school feel and movement ..
This is a professional revolutionary was? (strange profession)
Artistic value is (and positive vozdestvie)!

Кирилл Сызранский 13.08.2009 15:58

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 545066)
In addition, Lenin in Rybinsk stands on the old pedestal, the remainder of the monument to the king. He climbed, so to speak, not in its place.

And in Samara, he "got" not in his place.
At the same pedestal of the monument stood before the king "Liberator".
Monument to Alexander II in the center of the square was established in 1888, this monument (author - B. Sherwood), was the first monument in the city of Samara. Most of the amount needed for construction, gathered themselves residents of the city.

The figure of Tsar Alexander II stood on a pedestal of red Finnish granite. The pedestal is decorated with figures of hammered bronze: the peasant, Circassian, Bulgarian and Turkmen, folded veil. These figures embodied the most important events of the reign of Alexander II: the abolition of serfdom, the conquest of the Caucasus and Central Asia, the liberation of Bulgaria from the Turkish yoke.

13.08.2009 16:09

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 545346)
In my opinion, the modern ugliest monument in Moscow - is a monument Vorovsky

Legs wheel, his fingers like a fan: "Sha, the diplomat goes!"

Charming personality
Vaclav Vorovsky as a monument-caricature
2003-09-25 /Dmitry Galkovsky

One crafty old diplomat, Count Sforza, the same diplomat Italian (Italian diplomacy after 1870, was famous for its lack of principles), met with Soviet Ambassador Vaclav Vorovsky. Word for word conversation sans fason. Just arrived in Italy, Soviet "envoy" crossed his legs:

- Yes, indeed, we are all scoundrels.

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- Russia - a country of scoundrels. Yes, and fools. I've been recently headed the State Publishing House. What can I say - Russian monkeys.

- Excuse me, but your country has now changed dramatically. You spend one of its kind, uh, a grand social experiment. The old regime may be actually sit venia verbo left birthmarks, but now ...

- What? That you mean? About madman Marxists?

-??

- These idiots just want to take the cash. In politics it does not happen. Way, I advise them specifically not to contact. All the same, nothing happens. They do not come from an analysis of the situation and looking for all the answers in the Marxist textbooks. So things are not done.

- Oh, about whom the same from your colleagues, you are such a low opinion?

- Yes to all. And the first idiot - Lenin.

Choked then battered, cynical old man from this lapsus linguae, coughed. A Vorovsky continued:

- Actually, who Lenin? German village teacher, who was killed syphilis, before his death awarding multiple sparks of genius.

And further in all conversations with Sforza Vorovsky used the name of Lenin (which flows into the childhood, but still alive) only with the pejorative epithet.

Such cynicism veteran diplomat, had never seen. Of course, he Sforza Lenin evaluated low and realized that Vorovsky breaks down in front of him a fool, perhaps, on the instructions of the "rural teachers. He was struck by something else: personal attitude Vorovskogo considers all of their interviewees idiots primitive susceptible to manipulation, and manipulation of these primitive enjoys.

In general, as stated in the first edition of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia: "knave could impress even the most experienced foreign diplomats in his high intelligence, a broad education ... and finally, all his charming personality. His usual in conversation with his friends good-natured sarcasm turned into deadly venomous sarcasm when faced with opponents. But he was able to maintain full outer courtesy and politeness, which further strengthened its contrast toxicity content of his speeches. "

Vorovskogo killed in Switzerland in May 1923. Who ordered Josephine (Party urging), still not entirely clear. Technically it has killed some Conradi, who served in the White Army. But he Conradi was a Swiss citizen and wanted to remove the idiot was a whole queue. As in the anecdote about an attempt on Brezhnev. The investigator asked the terrorist with annoyance: "Well, you, my dear, missed from five feet?" And he answers: "Hit here. I just gun Brezhnev sent, all rushed to the Red Square: Give a shot and let us fire a shot."

Avtorhanov assumed that Vorovskogo removed Lenin, and explained his hatred of Lenin's suggestion to the people Parvus. This is unlikely. Lenin was a political heavyweight, and such people holy blyudut commitments. They took him to the cause, and in business Lenin differed great accuracy and scrupulousness. For example, after seizing power in a vast country, he has not forgotten the small financial obligations to the Swiss Social-Democrats and, despite the sabotage of the Soviet system, tried to satisfy all claims of its creditors. It was about sums in the hundreds of dollars. As for the numbers of serious, here Lenin acted with the accuracy of a professional accountant.

Rather, "charming personality" could kill the opposing party. Vorovsky was improper and, by their being disavowed British. Incidentally, the circumstances of the emergence Vorovskogo in Switzerland is very spicy. He arrived in Lausanne at the international conference, where he, as the Soviet representative, not invited. At the time prolezaniya in the window after vyshibaniya through the door of the mountain-diplomat and shot: the Swiss government did not provide him with protection, because they believed at least a private individual. As a minimum, because actually Vorovsky was diplomatic bully, and much worse than Khrushchev. Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the UN podium, but in the U.S., he was invited to the sessions of the UN, too. Invite - suffer. A Vorovsky climbing with boots "from themselves." Suppose the British and French were negotiating, suddenly in the door: Tink! - Vorovsky. Repin's painting "The Unexpected". It is not surprising that the murderer was acquitted Vorovskogo (!). What is called, Dowell. And Conradi put all the self-styled Soviet delegation, which consisted of three people. First Vorovskogo killed, and then seriously wounded his aides - Divilkovskogo and Arens. Perhaps this menu and it was ordered: tillage - olive, syavkam - for kicks.

Vorovskogo mishap is one of the most impressive achievements of Soviet power. Since the dawn of the century diplomats correcting problems created by politicians and the military. A Soviet diplomat managed to create around itself an international scandal-class. Indeed, the "charming personality".

"Charming personality" continues to prevent people so far. We put Vorovsky loving colleagues ridiculous monument is undoubtedly the ugliest and most ridiculous monument of Moscow. So Vorovskogo Muscovites are well known. Those who see the monument from time to time - laugh. Those who live near - spit. I photographed the monument to the newspaper, I just ten minutes. While filming, which just is not heard enough from passing by. The most innocent remark sent a forty-intellectual: "Handsome!"

Once I talked with the Moscow sculptor Chusovitina on "How is that possible." He explained in a professional easy. They wanted, as in life. The customer said: it is necessary to do so was as lively. And spread out, showing how it is:

- That's so, pose during a dispute he had a very characteristic, a kind of fingers used to deploy, on bent popochku stuck with the other hand as it holds the belt on his trousers.

I can easily believe. So it was. The artist knew that because you can not do, but did not argue - would be killed. Tale came with raspaltsovkami: "Zhorik killed, we want Zhorik memorial graveside 1:1, so as a living.

Can not put a monument to 1:1. Open space, even a tall man would look like a dwarf with a chicken head. These features of human perception. But useless to argue with the lads. A pay well.

I got Vorovsky TB bow-legged in the center of Moscow. If even a specially commissioned portrait of a villain for the museum of wax figures, then the customer would have rejected such a masterpiece:

- Must submit chikatilu with dialectics, conservative suit with a raccoon in a briefcase. And so it is unclear what his many years looking for - could not find. The audience will believe it.

No enemy could not put more shameful monument-caricatures. This, incidentally, is a monument to KGB. Present. It shows not mythical Felix, but quite real Vaclav Vatslavich. Felix, too, could give a real, but put the monument has no soul, during a state of anonymity. Get standards with unscrewed skull, as the statues of Roman period of the empire. He made a coat-pyramid with the ball in Budyenny helmets. "The ball is - no ball. And could the Iron Felix and the blind. He is in prison with a cellmate in 1916 at the Revolution "by yourself" argued. So be a revolution - otymeyu you all the holes. Not be - ce la vie, take off my pants. This is a man about himself recalled with a grin thieves. Knight, knight of the revolution. Role model for "young men contemplating zhite. Good composition could get: Polish Tatar (round face, narrow eyes, a predatory vamp nostrils, hoshiminovskaya beard), cross-legged on the benches, playing blackjack for themselves. "
 
 

Around this monument was placed. Inserted by the Bolsheviks, not customers and not a sculptor, performer, and very wise life. This is only a cursory glance monument Faun (another party reviews Vorovskogo - klikuh the international provocateur was like mud). Actually it is a monument located in two steps "English club" at the Lubyanka. Inserted it is not in the central square, and in a secluded corner, for his own. Who's supposed to - he will understand. It is, hiding in the shadows of tall building faun in the posture of Edward II. There was a king in the homeland of modern diplomacy. Him in the ass with a hot poker inserted. I asked them very much. But buried in the human, the biography accurately recorded in school textbooks. "Nothing Personal"

About unusual monuments in Moscow http://alexey.livejournal.com/96321.html With commentary.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.08.2009 16:20

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 545346)
monument in Moscow - is a monument Vorovsky.

He was killed in Lausanne, and a monument in Moscow.

Grigory 13.08.2009 16:23

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 545396)
And in Samara, he "got" not in his place.

Yes, and in Kostroma tazhe history.

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Monument to Lenin. Description.

In the 20 years of the last century Kostroma wanted to rename the "Lenin-on-Volga." However, this did not happen. But on the Volga river brought one of the largest in the Soviet monument to the leader of the proletariat.
Railway copper Ulyanov takes its place. Initially, the pedestal, on which now stands Lenin, was prepared for the monument dedicated to 300 anniversary of the Romanov dynasty. And it was founded by Tsar Nicholas II in 1913 during a visit to Kostroma.
This should have been a grand building that has no analogues in Russia and Europe. And only in 1928 were hoisted on a pedestal of Lenin. The first chief was made of reinforced concrete. But in the late 70's early 80-ies the monument began to deteriorate. In Stone Ilyich fell off his chin. On the whole structure went noticeable cracks.
In 1981, when it was decided to replace the concrete monument to the leader of the proletariat in the metal, the designers conceived of the body of the iron to make steel studs Illich, the birds did not sit down and do not spoil the look of Ulyanov. But the Regional Party Committee is not allowed to do so.
New statue of Lenin was erected in 1982. However, this design proved to be imperfect. Metal began to rust. Latest technical analysis of the monument, has shown that the monument in a critical condition.
Kostroma Ilyich shows to the city jail, built in the last century, but is still in effect.
There are plans for the 400 anniversary of the Romanov dynasty restore historical justice. On the pedestal back the Romanovs and the kneeling Susanin. But Lenin given a more modest place.
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A monument in St. Petersburg, on the square in front of Finland Station as you?

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Jasmin 13.08.2009 16:23

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He was killed in Lausanne

Why killed?

Konstantin 13.08.2009 16:28

Wonder about Vorovsky

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But the real historical role of the man that he was one of the closest confidants of Lenin, helped him organize all of the key Party Party Congress and to establish funding from various parties, hitherto not been clarified, the sources.

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During the First World War Vorovsky at the time he returned to the profession of engineer at a defense plant. But speaking after the Bolshevik Revolution, his path was clear. As one of the few truly educated Bolsheviks, furtively went into diplomacy - to create a favorable image of the young Soviet republic abroad. In this he succeeded, participated in the organization and work of the Genoa and Lausanne international conferences. And it was there that, in Lausanne, Switzerland, and it just killed (in a restaurant, but it is not the essence).

Emigre authors acknowledged that the massacre of Vorovsky - not the best milestone in the white movement. In their testimonies, the bullet was one of the most attractive of the Bolsheviks, while unambiguous villains were safe. However, the murderer - Whites from non-Russian Maurice Conradi - Court acquitted. Swiss jurors imbued with stories of atrocities of the Bolsheviks, and the relations between the USSR and Switzerland have been marred for a long time.
If not for this murder, under Stalin Vorovsky certainly would have been shot by her. Then it would be rehabilitated - but certainly would not be such a monument. And then, in the twenties, he was destined to become a red martyr. Monument did sculptor Michael Katz, of which the left and does little information.

Katz was a personal friend Vorovskogo himself lived and worked in Italy. "Obviously, he was ordered to make a living as Vorovskogo - Yuri Cook believes - that he complied, he asked:" He looks like? "Even as like! And here is where you were casting bronze and manufacturing marbled slabs of limestone, it is not known. It is likely that in Italy and then transported to the Ros steamer. But the board did Katz himself, as well as sculpture. There, behind, on one of the plates, cut down his signature ».



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