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U_Z 10.08.2009 21:57

Plate - Robert Gabitov
 
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Hello,

invite your attention the work of Robert Gabitova "Empress".
Porcelain (used for painting Kuznetsovskaya plate), gold leaf, diameter: 20 cm Rate this artist's work, how much it might cost? Thanks in advance.

K-Maler 12.08.2009 01:22

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 535846)
propose to your attention the work of Robert Gabitova "Empress".

Type in the name of Robert Google Gabitova and walk on the links, there is a lot about him. He made friends with Mayorau knew M.G.Time-Block. His many know.

Кирилл Сызранский 12.08.2009 07:39

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 540096)
His many know.

Countries, information about it. Strange and funny. : D

K-Maler 12.08.2009 23:47

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 540166)
A strange information about it. Strange and funny.

Vozmozhno.Odnako was too late to list what can be read in more detail. Strangely it seems to me that the newcomer, was able to go to the forum (registration, etc.), but look for the name in Google, which is much simpler, did not ...

U_Z 14.08.2009 22:00

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 543016)
Vozmozhno.Odnako was too late to list what can be read in more detail. Strangely it seems to me that the newcomer, was able to go to the forum (registration, etc.), but look for the name in Google, which is much simpler, did not ...

Dear K-Maler, thanks for the info, but if you carefully read my letter, then, "newcomer" asked to speak "experienced, respected, etc." about creativity and cost of works of this artist. Believe me, I delved into the internet, but a coherent assessment of creativity and real (concrete examples) the cost of works not found. Therefore, and turned to you, the professionals The fact that the artist gives the work Queen of England, Barack Obama, DA Medvedev and others, I realized and it is wonderful!

Черномашенцев Владимир 15.08.2009 13:36

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 549356)
The fact that the artist gives the work of the Queen of England, Barack Obama, DA Medvedev and others, I realized and it is wonderful!


Dear U_Z. The fact that the artist presents his work known to people - could hardly be an indicator of lean. values. Hardly Obama or Putin's great connoisseur of art. Especially Obama.

And yet - not the fact that the gift was accepted by Mr N. Here there is more blatant desire cheap popularity by the artist. Knowingly N. Sofronov at all corners shouting about his portrait of Putin.
I know not bad artists, whose works are from the same Mr N, since these people are embarrassed to talk about it, knowing well the price of such advertising. They do not believe in a "closet" country estates hanging their picture, and know whether the owner N, which bought him a servant to decorate the house.
Now, if the Queen herself Z buying of the artist X - so it may be a sign!

K-Maler 17.08.2009 01:30

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 550926)
. The fact that the artist presents his work known to people - could hardly be an indicator of lean. values

How to tell when this artist feels a certain otvetstvnnost for money and those who help him in this enterprise is not without such understanding, tips, etc. Robert Gabitov has a pronounced sense of decoration peculiar to the East, he is a Muslim ... He also boldly experimenting and knows how to communicate that is important for promotion - is a topic that is just being discussed at the forum. How much is a good author painted ceramic or porcelain (here overglaze painting) can not say. The fame of the author is important, so I mentioned that many of you know him, especially in Moscow. Go to the gallery that sells ceramics.

K-Maler 17.08.2009 18:50

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 535846)
propose to your attention the work of Robert Gabitova "Empress".

Navel some help: This dish is worth about 1200 euros.

U_Z 18.08.2009 00:10

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 550926)
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Note from U_Z
The fact that the artist gives the work Queen of England, Barack Obama, DA Medvedev and others, I realized and it is wonderful!


Dear U_Z. The fact that the artist presents his work known to people - could hardly be an indicator of lean. values. Hardly Obama or Putin's great connoisseur of art. Especially Obama.

And yet - not the fact that the gift was accepted by Mr N. Here there is more blatant desire cheap popularity by the artist. Knowingly N. Sofronov at all corners shouting about his portrait of Putin.
I know not bad artists, whose works are from the same Mr N, since these people are embarrassed to talk about it, knowing well the price of such advertising. They do not believe in a "closet" country estates hanging their picture, and know whether the owner N, which bought him a servant to decorate the house.
Now, if the Queen herself Z bought by the artist X - so it may be a sign!

Vladimir, the last sentence of your post, I wrote with irony. Well, not as put smiles! Would probably have to put. Refer to K. Syzran, that he understood correctly, I thought.

And that so-BK Obama and VV Putin does not like, especially BK Obama.
VV Putin - PN Filonov very appreciated. Maybe true - love and understand his work. I do not think that your dear Mr. N, BK Obama V. Putin, DA Medvedev and the Queen Elizabeth II (I hope, in its general education you have no doubt about this), go to salons, etc. looking to buy such a genius! Believe me, they have something to do! A N. Sofronov, all still Safronov, as it does not include!

Черномашенцев Владимир 18.08.2009 08:18

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 555196)
And that so-BK Obama and VV Putin does not like, especially BK Obama.

  ? I understand that vysheprevedennaya quotation - it is a question to me.

I read your post and did not find any phrases that I do not like Obmamu or Putin. It was your decision. On the other hand, that I love one or the other? I do not like boys, girls are more like me.: P

If we talk about my preferences from an artistic point of view, Putin is closer to me potentially Obamy.Soglashus indirectly with you about my love /dislike - I am sure that Putin has had more opportunities ponakomitsya with the painting, which I like. Yet he was from Leningrad - and it corresponds to the architecture and many museums. Regarding Obama, my attitude toward Amer. culture, you can look at the topic "Amer. Art. Obama - an obvious product of culture Amer, I was nearer the Old World.
: D
Regarding the campaigns of VIP-persons Galleries: Do any normal person has a hobby, to whom he gives his personal time. If the same Putin or Obama can afford to watch football on TV or go fishing, then why should not he go to a museum or gallery? Of course, if he has such an interest.

PS

Sorry, slightly off topic, but you asked - I answered as I can.


  PPS

Now on the topic. Sorry, I do not know at what china eats Putin, but to me personally, this artist seemed somewhat unnaturally bright, the product for the "new Russian". I would not be surprised to see this for sale somewhere in Venice - for tourists. From my point of view, an indication that the painting was done on Kuznetsovsk old china - do not matter if we are talking about the artistic value. Unfortunately, I do not always pay attention to the material value - and here I am a bad adviser.

U_Z 19.08.2009 01:03

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 555366)
On the other hand, that I love one or the other? I do not like boys, girls I like more.

Vladimir, hello. Why have a stamp on porcelain? A: First - to at least as something to point to the media of painting, and secondly - the artist took a banal plate (with chips), which came to hand and has done his job, and could prepare for and take the underwear factory :-) .
Largely agree with you. Main - orientation - here we have full coincidence of tastes! You and I are old-fashioned :-). Keep it up!

K-Maler 19.08.2009 03:41

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 557446)
and could be prepared and take the underwear factory :-).

It is impossible for this to work, where a number of all this "underwear" is close and the furnace, the raw porcelain does not tolerate transportation, especially painted, until it almost touched. Gabitova overglaze painting, but also with the firing, it is also a classic technique, special pigments, etc.

Кирилл Сызранский 19.08.2009 06:50

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 557526)
It is impossible for this to work, where a number of all this "underwear" is close and the furnace, the raw porcelain does not tolerate transportation,

Many porcelain factories sell "clothes" under painting. This is a "linen" is simply neraspisanny semifinished household utensils. Perenosit transportation, as was already burning.
All Soviet propaganda porcelain of the first issues placed on the pre-revolutionary "clothes" IPE labeled as the emblem of RI and the "H II".

dedulya37 19.08.2009 11:21

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 557526)
Gabitova overglaze painting, but also with the firing, it is also a classic technique, special pigments, etc.

Agree. These pigments appear in color very differently than they do after firing.
My wife has this "amused" after I brought her a bag of "laundry" from Verbilok 30 years ago.

K-Maler 19.08.2009 18:10

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 557536)
L Soviet propaganda porcelain of the first issues placed on the pre-revolutionary "clothes"

"Underwear" tolerates, but does not tolerate wet paint ... It has somehow paint a fireplace and a few dishes, so ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 557536)
Soviet propaganda porcelain of the first issues placed on the pre-revolutionary "clothes"

Now to me is such a dish, obschepitovskaya.Na her words "Catering under fire from the working self-criticism" and risunochek: diamond, it is something like a landscape, a tractor, side a sheaf of wheat ... On the back of the emblem and the letter-p, m, f. Be erudition, tell me, what is it?


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