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v_r 04.08.2009 20:02

Michael Ryasnyanskii did not write this
 
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Dear Gradus09 today sent a link http://aukro.ua/show_item.php?item=705080243
This is a rather crude and stupid fake
Samples of this signature will not lead.
Let poddelschiki to start own painting learn to forge poprofessionalnee.

v_r 04.08.2009 21:36

Sold some Alexey Nisterenko his e-mail: wer3212@rambler.ru
his phone 80990623293
on this phone, I naturally called, as expected to hear such nonsense in the likeness: "artist Mikhail Alekseevich Ryasnyanskii very much."

quote the text with an answer to my letter about this fraud:

Alex Nisterenko [wer3212@rambler.ru]:
Who's so smart?

> Message from: viktoria_r
> Page with lot: Ryasnyanskii M
> Message:
> The author of this picture is not Michael Ryasnyanskii.
> You are well aware.
> Adding these things in the creation of a collection of fakes.

Advise that this handsome do?
Proposals to fill its head will not be accepted: (

Gradus09 04.08.2009 22:00

v_r, perhaps he does not know what sells, he has a (signature sold).
At one f-me friend put awards on the discussion, bought a knowledgeable people who guarantee the authenticity of items
proved that faleristicheskom fax-me them two years ago recognized the false.
Here and believe then people))).
Do not get excited, more experienced comrades look, poskazhut.

LCR 04.08.2009 22:03

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Сообщение от Gradus09 (Сообщение 518056)
v_r, perhaps he himself does not know what sells, he has a (signature sold).
/.../
Do not get excited, more experienced comrades look, poskazhut.

Anything can happen, of course, but the argument "artists such a lot of" paid professionals - they always start with this.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.08.2009 22:08

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Сообщение от v_r (Сообщение 517946)
Recommend that this handsome do?

And what can you do?
Posted in the deliberations of the lot, it falshak.
Daly here on this information.
It is possible that you will see more fake work Ryasnyanskii.
Display them here.
Many of the heirs of both of these fakes are struggling and it is yielding results, believe me.

Вивьен 04.08.2009 22:11

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 518126)
But what can you do?

Indeed, to call them on the phone, let alone write letters to no avail.
When the author calls "the auction" a week before the auction and said, clear the lot of a certain, it's not my job, I did not write, and do not take off work, silently ignoring what else to say?

vyadem 04.08.2009 22:22

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 518126)
They wrote in the deliberations of the lot, it falshak.
Daly here on this information.

totally agree ... even yell at the seller, even threaten - get nothing! Alas, this is the time!
And the fact that the information given here - it is very good! "... I, for example, saw the job ... now I know that falshak.

v_r 04.08.2009 22:39

This handsome why you wrote me another letter in which he had Andrew.
Quote:
"If you feel alone that you are one such artist named Resnyanskaya you are deeply mistaken with HC Andrew"

I'm really in the past had to deal with forgeries attributed to my father. Faced with fakes of my work and my signature.
Usually such obvious nonsense crooks do, and such tricks, be up outside of Ukraine.
But in this case - a provocation. I do not want to respond to rudeness and cynicism to use brute force.
Respond quickly - my direct responsibility ...

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 519)
Indeed, to call them on the phone, let alone write letters to no avail.
When the author calls "the auction" a week before the auction and said, clear the lot of a certain, it's not my job, I did not write, and do not take off work, silently ignoring what else to say?

In this case turned out to be useful:)
The seller withdrew the auction lot.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.08.2009 23:25

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Сообщение от v_r (Сообщение 518246)
In this case turned out to be useful
The seller withdrew the auction lot.

This, c AUKRO?

v_r 04.08.2009 23:33

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 518466)
This, c AUKRO?

Yes, c AUKRO.
But do not rule out that these things work can jump somewhere else. After all, who then tried karyabal signatures from both sides of the canvas.
And holstik not small size 2h3metra. Greed may be more common decency and common sense.

uriart 05.08.2009 08:00

v_r, in this case, it is a place to be a copy of Ryasnyanskii era of developed socialism. Koi written in hudkombinatah for clubs, hospitals, etc.

05.08.2009 10:00

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 519216)
v_r, in this case, it is a place to be a copy of Ryasnyanskii era of developed socialism. Koi written in hudkombinatah for clubs, hospitals, etc.

And why would the author's signature? For completeness, with similarities to the original:)

v_r 05.08.2009 10:12

No, it does not copy, but quite conscious forgery.
Yes, from hack-work during the development of socialism, almost no one refused. Only now were the artists to perform hack-work in different ways.

Kartinschikov level Mikhail Ryasnyanskii in Ukraine is easily counted on the fingers. The reason is very simple. Construction of songs in the movie, he always put first.
In this case the picture is generally not built on the composition.
My assumptions:
The masterpiece was created as a thesis student at an unknown art school. Then lain in the method of the fund, waiting for his hour of triumph.
The masterpiece was created in thin mill staff designer middling. Stayed there for a number of years in the country club. The collective farm went bankrupt. Among squandered the achievements of socialist culture and it was a monumental work.
Do not perish the good of this size. Square centimeter was offered for sale by 1,25 UAH.

All this is great, but the signature of the present author to replace someone else, even more famous is bad form.

05.08.2009 19:53

Dear v_r, look at this link http://www.antikvariat.biz.ua/viewto...7cd8eb42ed315e. It is proposed to quickly and inexpensively Ryasnyanskii Mikhail Alekseevich.

uriart 05.08.2009 20:18

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 519326)
And why would the author's signature? For completeness, with similarities to the original

But what no signature!
Because then you can not ask for her money.
Here and signed. Now the money requested.
And who will be there with those Soviet artists to understand?
And in this case, unfortunately the seller found a daughter of the artist.
What a shame!


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