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Дениссс 03.08.2009 23:28

Rate this picture: Aivazovsky and Khudyakov
 
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Please rate the pictures. 1st signed Aivazovsky. Names do not know. According to the information available to me, the picture only 2 /3 written by a master, and the rest of his pupil. The second picture is also without a title. Signed Khudyakov A. The network found only one Timofeevich Andrei Khudyakov, 1896 DOB Both pictures I want to sell, the cost will not know. Both pictures are painted with oil.

Евгений 04.08.2009 06:16

Dear, there are rules for placement of such works at the forum ... please read, and only then write ... http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=25835

uriart 04.08.2009 06:47

Denisss, with Taim quality photos you do not hear normal!

vyadem 04.08.2009 06:58

Denisss, firstly, the quality of photos! ... Should at least see him smear (it's at the expense of Aivazovsky) ... and secondly, you should always make technological expertise ... a lot can say infrared photography, since the primary characteristic of Aivazovsky picture ... And so it may be AI Faessler, etc.

Вивьен 04.08.2009 09:03

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 515186)
as a primary characteristic Aivazovsky picture ...

For Aivazovsky was characterized by the presence of the horizon, he pursued this line, even if he wrote a storm sea. And already then, on this line, lay out the remaining details of the picture.

vyadem 04.08.2009 13:30

Vivian, not enough of these lines were at least 2 ... he has a lot of characteristic differences in the preparatory drawing

Дениссс 04.08.2009 18:11

Thank you, dear, for the information. Means we must sfotat better. Yes, the ship now, according to my information, Aivazovsky wrote with a certain picture of Latri M. grandfather drove back to Soviet times for examination in Odessa, but no documents. There was supposedly so indicated. All the words of his grandfather, who died. Pictures from my wife's brother probabki on his mother's line, belonged to their family, they supposedly some landlords have lived near the Black Sea. Data examination no. Pictures painted on canvas, oil. On the reverse side inscriptions no. The picture that Khudyakova in good condition, and in some places Aivazovsky yellowed. Written paintings in the late 19, early 20 th century. Dimensions paintings, signed by Khudyakov, 440 mm vertically, horizontally 297 mm. Signed A point, Khudyakov. Aivazovsky painting on a vertical 520 mm, horizontal 345 mm. Signed And, the point, Aivazovsky.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.08.2009 18:41

Цитата:

Сообщение от Denisss (Сообщение 515056)
1st signed Aivazovsky.

This is a painting on the horizon, the city of some kind. Which? This is important, it can affect the price of the painting.
Make good photos.

Дениссс 04.08.2009 19:02

Dear, help please, where to technological expertise and approximately how much it will cost? Why is it needed? In Moscow and Peter spend anywhere examination? I live in Chelyabinsk. If not difficult, then, pozhalysta give a phone number.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.08.2009 19:07

Denisss, here:
  Federal State Cultural Institution. "All-Russia Scientific-Art Restoration Center. Academician IE Grabar."

  7 (499) 763-37-29 Moscow, Radio Str., 17, block 6 http://print.maps.yandex.net/1.x/?pt...ZrfeIDgc8bg ==

http://www.grabar.ru/

Here: State Scientific-Research Institute for Restoration (GosNIIR)
  Moscow, 107014 ul. Gastello, 44, page 1
Tel: (499) 748-07-94

  And here: Artkonsalting produces examination and insurance of all the monuments in Russia.
  7 (495) 772-26-28 Moscow, Stoleshnikov Lane., 11, block 1 http://print.maps.yandex.net/1.x/?pt...ZrfeIDgc8bg ==

www.ArtConsulting.ru

vyadem 04.08.2009 19:19

Цитата:

Сообщение от Denisss (Сообщение 517106)
Why do we need it

For example, if you intend to sell Aivazovsky, this master of the first magnitude! And in order to confirm or deny his authorship should undertake a comprehensive examination. A lot of fakes, copies of works of his pupils, etc.

Дениссс 04.08.2009 20:35

Thank you very much! And the question, only in the capital, expertise can be? If this still does Ayvazhovsky, then to what extent it might cost? I ask to what because of the relatively small amount, I will not bother, as well as some may be expert studies? Somehow, nobody paid attention to the picture Khudyakov. This artist nobody heard? If you know the answers to these questions, pozhalysta, response. :)

vyadem 04.08.2009 20:53

Цитата:

Сообщение от Denisss (Сообщение 517556)
I asked him to, because of the relatively small amount, I will not bother

Denisss, if it Aivazovsky, fiddle ... such is the size of the auction at least 100-200 thousand USD
I think it kind of Peter from the bay ...

Amateur 04.08.2009 21:21

Цитата:

Сообщение от Denisss (Сообщение 516916)
Aivazovsky wrote with a certain Latri M.

  "Some" is Michael M. Latri Pelopidovich Latri (1875 - 1941), grandson of Ivan Aivazovsky himself a very famous artist.

Strangely, it seems that you are asking the question in this forum, not looked before this in Google - there is enough stuff "Latri" - and everything will become clear.

vyadem 04.08.2009 21:28

Amateur, I see you are from St. Petersburg ... tell me, it can be view on the city by the bay? In the background Issakievskogo dome of the cathedral and the spire of Peter and Paul fortress?


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