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Tamila 03.08.2009 13:37

Galleries enough, but where art to fill them?
 
Recently came across an interesting article by Jeremy Clarkson.
This British journalist and television host in Russia is known for the transfer of Top Gear. He is not only well versed in cars, but also writes a weekly, sometimes provocative note to the Sunday times.
Here is the translation of Igor Maltsev one of them.

Galleries enough, but where art to fill them?

Opening a new gallery of Charles Saatchi in London led to think about one problem. In England, has divorced so many galleries that art at all is not enough.
The first time we faced a similar phenomenon, when the Guggenheim Museum was built, like a huge golden hat on his head unremarkable industrial city in northern Spain. This is an amazing building, and it is very good, because inside it is not anything remarkable.
When I visited the museum a few years ago, in the exhibition were presented a triangle, a small maze and cassock. During questioning, I found that the most popular exhibition, which has ever held in the museum, was an exhibition of motorcycles.
But the painful virus have already went for a walk on the planet. In all the dark satanic mills and factories in Britain, which had deteriorated after the fall of the empire, pootkryvat art galleries. Initially, this idea even a matter of respect. But think for yourself, how much of the art is in Gateshead, or Walsall?
In rural pubs you will be encouraged to support "local artists". We'll iron them on the head, called scribble a masterpiece, and ask how they figured to paint with your eyes closed. And then make the legs.
The fact that the most valuable work of British artists are Japanese banks in the storehouses. Others are hanging in the Tate Gallery and National Museum. So before turning dead plant in Glossop in the bright palace of art, you have to decide where to find all this art, which you are going to hang on the wall.
Curated exhibitions can turn its attention to the American artist Maurizio Cattelan. Recently, he carved a statue of the pope in full growth, representing the pope at a time when he was struck by a meteorite, a broken ceiling of the gallery. Even he has a replica of the Washington memorial to the soldiers who died in Vietnam - only instead of the names of the fallen soldiers memorial written pa matches, losing the England national football team.
But with him, too, can cause problems. Recently, his eight-rabbit hung by the ears, bought for 200 000 pounds sterling. If the buyer was the mayor of Walsall, then we would have to watch the interesting reaction of voters. Because nowadays everything is measured as incubators for newborns, and salaries for teachers, if the mayor has spent two hundred pieces of rabbit, then the newspaper would have rinsed his name in full.
Even Saatchi have to struggle for survival. For obvious reasons, he was never able to find pictures of bells and rural type of local artists, so his gallery packed with any nonsense that unsophisticated man perceives only as leftovers, bedding, trash and pornography.
At the opening of the gallery entrance are two hundred of naked people, and it was all so strange that the actress Helen Baksendeyl said she now knows how to talk to Tracey Emin in case "she wrote to me, or do something in this kind.
In the room the guests could admire the cut shark-filled waste oil room and enjoy the sight of severed cow's head to thrive inside the flies and worms.
Such high art gives hope to the owners of the provincial galleries - at least half of the exposition can be found at the local butchers and fishermen. But it is unlikely to suit us with you.
The horror is that (thanks for that Saatchi and especially Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen (British interior designer, leading to channel the popular BBC program Changing Rooms), that now everyone will hang something in their wall and think, this is a rental. Not a rental.
In my living room wall hangs a lovely painting. It grazing cows near the river a misty morning. I can understand what is depicted in this picture, because its written by man wielding a brush so that cows, and the river, and mist is easy to learn.
Unfortunately, this picture reminds me that I did not have time to move in step with the times. So I have to remove the cows and nailed to the wall of one of my dogs. Or draw a baguette Sunday dinner and hang it in a conspicuous place.
And the devil knows what to do. I could get a portrait of Myra Hindley, painted sheep turd. But I have to lay out for him 150 000 pounds.
My Flat in London, in the spirit of minimalism - it is clean and spacious. Bare wooden floors, clean walls, painted a new shade of pink a la Barbie, only lighter. If his picture was placed in a magazine on design, then people would pay five pounds, only to see how it looks in reality.
Each time, crossing the threshold, I think that ought to somehow beat. And people who live below me, probably think that I would have been nice and put carpets.
There is another problem. The situation is very suitable under the current "designer" fashion, but fashion changes quickly - then you have to throw wooden floors and start all over again.
It's one thing when fashion concerns pants for half a ruble. But when it comes to the whole house in general, agree that this is another story. And that is why my cows in the mist still hanging in its rightful place. Real art, like real jeans, never goes out of fashion. You will never hear: "Oh, it's Mona Lisa! She no longer rolls.

Тютчев 03.08.2009 14:03

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Сообщение от Tamila (Сообщение 513346)
Even Saatchi have to struggle for survival. For obvious reasons, he was never able to find pictures of bells and rural type of local artists, so his gallery packed with any nonsense that unsophisticated man perceives only as leftovers, bedding, trash and pornography.

      I think Saatchi will survive as long as Russia is full of nepugannyh rich idiots willing to buy it all. By the way, he recently brought a stale product that failed to sell in Europe and America. I wonder whether he succeeded to sell something in reality? Most likely, yes.

Meister 03.08.2009 14:18

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 513396)
I wonder whether he managed to sell something in reality? Most likely, yes.

  1, by a strange desire to echo the nouveau riche western tastes ... its not completely. a pity! boom is hoped that all the same people will start to read and go to the courses! won artinvestment already started strongly hope that all this will be a success and grow!

Vladimir 03.08.2009 14:19

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 513396)
Yes, by the way, he recently brought a stale product that failed to sell in Europe and America.

I do not remember this. What was behind the event?

SAH 03.08.2009 14:37

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 513396)
Yes, by the way, he recently brought a stale product that failed to sell in Europe and America.

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 513466)
I do not remember this. What was behind the event?

Likely on the forum there are people who control the worldwide artbiznes, and may opredilit where fresh and where the stale image.
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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 513396)
I think Saatchi will survive as long as Russia is full of nepugannyh rich idiots willing to buy it all.

Do you seriously think that Saatchi makes a modicum of serious bet on the "rich idiots out of Russia? And in general people who buy art in which we all are "tied" is not logical so called, insult.

Vladimir 03.08.2009 14:52

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Сообщение от Tamila (Сообщение 513346)
This high art gives hope to the owners of the provincial galleries - at least half of the exposition can be found at the local butchers and fishermen. But it is unlikely to suit us with you.

The text gives the impression of a set of distortions, seasoned with exercises in wit. Banter - this is the main technique Clarkson, the basis of the genre. But his expertise in this matter philistine. Logic: saw - did not understand - all around are fools. I think, an outstanding leading automobile transmission, it would be unpleasant if the British grandmother sat in a Porsche and start a fire for his awkward landing and no one needs herds of horses. And the art he is currently allows. Man seems witty, that actress from Van Helsing feared gestures Tracey Emin. In general, the column is calculated to ensure that entertain like-minded British man in the street, which they were the vanguard of the deep to the bulb. Until the same bulbs as our townsfolk Malevich or Kabakov.

NATA NOVA 03.08.2009 14:55

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 513616)
most likely on the forum there are people who control the worldwide artbiznes, and may opredilit where fresh and where the stale image.

Naive authority-san! There "pictures" and does not smell the corpses, mostly ...
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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 513466)
I do not remember this. What was behind the event?

Hurst (by spelling not me) have in mind, of course ...

Тютчев 03.08.2009 14:59

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 513466)
I do not remember this. What was behind the event?

      That is true. Of course, mixed up with Larry Gagosyanom. Sorry.

NATA NOVA 03.08.2009 15:05

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 513616)
And all the people who buy art in which we all are "tied" is not logical so called, insult.

And here I am with you do not agree. Iskussto-"art"-Retail! Can we call a work of art, which is done by the hands of hired workers on the stolen idea and is extremely easy to repeat (replicate, produce)? Hands of the same workers, for example?

Can your definition of art, what kind of art you have in mind?

Vladimir 03.08.2009 15:05

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 513736)
Hurst (author of the spelling not me) have in mind, of course ...

Another interesting version: now Saatchi Hirst brought to Russia. How many passes. Hirst in Russia, precisely in Moscow on indoor display brought home gallery "Triumph". This exhibition has seen, probably about a hundred to two hundred. Then the fragments of the exhibition shown in CHA at some salon (do not remember). Something in the "chess" brought Tatintsyan. Another Gagosian gallery (not Saatchi) brought their art in Barvikha (also not a mass event). In other words, residents of Moscow and other cities in Russia have not yet had the pleasure to live like human beings contemplate the work of the British avant-garde.

NATA NOVA 03.08.2009 15:07

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 513766)
In other words, residents of Moscow and other cities in Russia have not yet had the pleasure to live like human beings contemplate the work of the British avant-garde.

A mozht and for the better? "(All that is not ...)

Vladimir 03.08.2009 15:08

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 513746)
That is true. Of course, mixed up with Larry Gagosyanom. Sorry.

All understood. No problem. Gagosian exhibition brought in Barvikha Luxury Village (not seen) and "Red October" (see, there are pictures). Hirst in "Red October" was not, but without the exhibition was outstanding: Pollock, de Kooning, Gorky - and all the work you could buy ...

SAH 03.08.2009 15:16

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 513756)
And here I am with you do not agree.

I do not understand with what exactly you do not agree.
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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 513756)
Iskussto-"art"-Retail! Can we call a work of art, which is done by the hands of hired workers on the stolen idea and is extremely easy to repeat (replicate, produce)? Hands of the same workers, for example?

Your question, my answer is possible. Contradictions for me, no. Black Square is also possible and extremely easy to repeat (replicate, produce)? Hands of the same workers, for example? " As for the idea is stolen as you can imagine is very controversial and may require the intervention of the prosecutor's office (God forbid):) If you are about Hirst is to read my posts you can see I do not remember how he called. about the exhibition in Kiev, the exhibition goes until September, the queue is no, entry is free. Me he Hirst is not necessary, are not particularly enthusiastic, but in my opinion is relevant. The world is such rot, unfortunately.

Черномашенцев Владимир 03.08.2009 15:38

I am glad that NATA NOVA wrote that I tried myself to say last week about the hands unknown to me electricians, mehannikov and carpenters. It is true, then it somehow in these ideas have not permeated.


Black box again impossible, since it was first. And, besides, "Square" is not monochrome, and has a smooth texture, as drawings of some "great" Aussie Rules "artists" in 50-80 years of 20 century.

British journalist, of course, not an expert in contemporary art (like myself). But how long will be able to deceive the people, by such masterpieces as otfotoshoplennye photo wallpaper? (see the topic about Sovrem. Amer. art).
Let these people and rich. No queues at the following shows: - figure. Turner (in the Pushkin Museum) last fall, much people crowd. Although Turner - this is not Shishkin and Aivazovsky - known, familiar and understandable to the masses artists.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.08.2009 16:01

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 513826)
understandable to the masses artists.

Lord, "the masses"! have not heard of this phrase, as a breath of good old shovel. Or socks? : D


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