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Сергей Титаренко 04.07.2009 20:07

Helped explain the origin of the picture
 
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Helped explain the origin of the picture?

Sandro 04.07.2009 20:19

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Sergey Titarenko, I am free copy of "Madonna with the book" Raphael

Сергей Титаренко 04.07.2009 21:25

Thank you for your, answer! I am probably not correctly, formulated question. (The fact that the free copy of "Madonna with the book" Raphael, is seen or experienced eye). Interesting here is what may have kakieto artists who copied Raphael, with his name. and maybe you can opridelit who created this copy?
  Sincerely Sergey Titarenko.

Игорь Гурьев 05.07.2009 16:02

Similar copies were many.
This copy is weak enough for the drawing and plastic in general, but remarkably beautiful in color.

Judging by the French inscription should be made in France.
Perhaps the provincial French work 17 th century, made by engraving.

Сергей Титаренко 06.07.2009 17:11

Question.
 
How to understand why a baby and Madonna slanting eyes?

Мимопроходил 06.07.2009 17:59

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Сообщение от Sergey Titarenko (Сообщение 462406)
How to understand why a baby and Madonna slanting eyes?

Apparently the author, in addition to Raphael, "fanatel" Cranach:)

Сергей Титаренко 07.07.2009 15:35

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 462476)
Apparently the author, in addition to Raphael, "fanatel" Cranach

    Understandable yazukom possible? than helpful message?

Игорь Гурьев 07.07.2009 16:09

For reproduction is difficult to define, but it is possible that a provincial Italian copy even 16 th century, for example.
Although unlikely.
Rather, 17, and it is unclear Whose: Italian or French.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.07.2009 16:15

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Сообщение от Sergey Titarenko (Сообщение 464556)
clear yazukom possible? than helpful message?

Sorry, but you came to ask for help, and can hardly here dictate to whom and what to write. No?

Sandro 07.07.2009 16:19

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 464686)
The reproduction is difficult to define, but it is possible that this is a provincial Italian copy even 16 th century, for example.
Although unlikely.
Rather, 17, and it is unclear Whose: Italian or French.

to determine approximately the time of writing copy, to start to see the turnover of the canvas ... The edges of the gap - can not be older than the 2nd half of 19th century ...

Кирилл Сызранский 07.07.2009 16:37

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 464716)
At the edges of the gap - can not be older than the 2nd half of 19th century ...

And in general it is an icon. Look at Titlo at the head child and BM, and the signature at the bottom- La Viege au livre .

Мимопроходил 07.07.2009 16:51

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Сообщение от Sergey Titarenko (Сообщение 464556)
clear yazukom possible? than helpful message?

I just assumed that the author of your paintings imitated by Lucas Cranach, because the images and gave Raphael characteristic style Cranach slanting eyes. Unless, of course, this does not work of Chinese artist:)

Sorry for Offtopic, the other day a friend of the historian is beautifully told, in fact looked Genghis Khan. The image came to us highly distorted because of all the surviving portraits - the work of Chinese artists. :) All luck!

Сергей Титаренко 07.07.2009 17:34

Okay!
 
Photos of the back side I pikreplyu tomorrow, possibly tonight!
  If anyone interested to see high-quality photos, let soap come of it!

Сергей Титаренко 08.07.2009 08:30

Doroe morning! :)
 
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Here, only the quality is not very, hand trembled!

Кирилл Сызранский 08.07.2009 08:36

Sergey Titarenko, let the whole traffic picture, with stretchers, and not fragments.
Although ... A stretcher is a new one?


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