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LCR 02.07.2009 15:14

Council collectors of modern art - with a heartrending example)))
 
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Paris, June 1952 U.S. billionaire Bill O'Neill was a passionate lover of art. All their time and money he devoted to collections of contemporary art, which he decided to pass on the legacy in museums. But this attractive feature of his character is not overshadowed or inherent also incredible stinginess and strife - for example, he never in his life no one has left a penny tip. It is clear that such a person was a mass nedobrodzhelateley, including art dealers. One of them - Jean Duvernay, gallery owner in Paris. However, just throw him out, he could not: of course, Bill Bill O'Neill was odinm of the most obnoxious of his clients, but bought a lot and regularly, and knew painting.

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But the American still got our Marchand, and one day he decided to pay him for the many insults, and in addition also to profit at his expense. On this day, Bill O'Neill came to after long negotiations, to pay a few works by contemporary artists. Together with Jean Duvernay he went into the office to check and obtain the necessary documents for purchased paintings. In the office Duvernay always stood in anticipation of sending pictures or sale. O'Neill gave them look - m pale: he saw a magnificent canvas Utrillo, which was depicted Place du Tertre. When he asked Duvernay casually replied: "Ah, my fake Utrillo? Not bad fake, right? ". O'Neill could not take his eyes from the landscape. Of course, he was not an expert on Utrillo, but considered himself competent enough to recognize the original Utrillo his best period. Hoping to make a deal of his life he offered to buy Duvernay his "fake" at a very reasonable price.

But Duvernay not agree: he does not sell falshakami. O'Neill did not insist, but a few days later he sent the gallery Duvernay expert, as if by chance passing by. Those not hugging to his attention, looked at the picture and have confidence in its authenticity. O'Neill again went to the gallery and tried to persuade him to sell fake Duvernay landscape Utrillo. In the end, Duvernay reluctantly agreed to a deal, but "that no one could suspect him of dishonesty," set a condition: O'Neill to write a document confirming that he was warned that the painting, which he bought a fake. Satisfied O'Neill wrote: "I, the undersigned, Bill O'Neill, certify that bought fake Utrillo, Jean Duvernay two million francs (about 300,000 euros). Jean Duvernay warned me that the picture that I bought - a fake, and that it is not worth the money that I paid for it.

Awfully pleased with himself, O'Neill left the gallery with the picture under his arm. Back at the hotel, he opened it and was stunned: this was not the picture that he saw a mediocre copy! Urgent caused expert confirmed: "Yes, of course, is a copy. This is not the picture that I have examined.

Oh yes, forgot! The Board referred to in the title theme: collectors of modern (and if you think well, and not just modern) art, behave politely and do not hurt gallerists, rude behavior can cost you more than you think!


Konstantin 02.07.2009 15:42

We have shot a prankster or something worse.
  But it certainly demonstrates the wildness of our manners and civility of the French.

Meister 02.07.2009 18:48

and I liked it)) beautiful! ))))

Кирилл Сызранский 02.07.2009 18:56

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 452236)
But the American still got our Marchand, and one day he decided to pay him for the many insults, and in addition also to profit at his expense.

In a film this scene with the fake is not fake, fake receipt and use.
But generally it's a classic "hook" scams: bred victim herself thinks that she breeds "Loha" dealer. : D

uriart 02.07.2009 19:53

The same manner lit my friend's dealer in Moscow Aivazovsky.

Кирилл Сызранский 02.07.2009 20:02

uriart, and wrote a receipt? : D

Vladimir 02.07.2009 21:52

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 452556)
In a film this scene with the fake is not fake-fake receipt and use.

Yes, something like that ... they are among the hotels ran hastily rented room to the victim-collector to organize a meeting ... This movie?

Кирилл Сызранский 02.07.2009 22:12

Vladimir, I am now so I do not remember in detail, only the fabric itself "kidka and grabbed.
And here is the English TV series about three (or four there?) Gentlemen-rogues, they aferyuzhnichali in the art business, so there was definitely such a way. They're from London to Europe and traveled all greedy millionaires in their own greed and caught. These dandy English humor, and beautiful clothes for heroes.
Not
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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 452836)
Samara style

: D

Sandro 02.07.2009 22:30

Cyril Syzransky, as well as a series called?

Кирилл Сызранский 02.07.2009 22:33

Sandro, well, you really are asking such questions.
Of course I do not remember, and not paying attention. And what channel shows not remember.
But! Remember who any of the participants!
To the son says-74 channel, stunned!

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Sandro, so this episode, he was like, but there was no ladies and men were all young. http://monstersgamblers.ru/content/view/151/1/

gorelov 03.07.2009 07:56

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 452266)
We have shot a prankster or something worse.
  But it certainly demonstrates the wildness of our manners and civility of the French.

Way, about the French bad Alfredo Koch:
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... France entered the Second World War in 1939. Entered it, but only on paper, since no fighting has led to, and not going. Facing each other French and German troops along the border and only playfully squabbling. So the French interpreted his duty as allies to Poland. Like, we promised Poland to declare war on Germany if she attacked Poland, so we announced it, and. But, in fact, we're not promised to fight! Declare war - please, but vzapravdu fight - this is too much. Are we idiots? Look at what came up - fight! And suddenly killed? Found fools. We here better reds mash, in a foxhole, away from their wives, in the open air ...

And at this time Poland was bleeding in the unequal struggle against Germany and the Soviet Union. I wonder if the Poles knew how to "help" the allies, they would have before the war as well behaved with Hitler and Stalin, or somehow more careful, or what? The Germans struck in the spring of 1940. Within weeks of the French army remained horns and hoofs, and the English expeditionary force had barely time to carry away the legs from Dunkirk, and then only because Hitler gave them time to evacuate. He then played in the nobility. In June the Germans entered Paris, and France capitulated. Northern France joined the Reich, but from the southern erected a puppet state with its capital in Vichy. A handful of officers headed by Charles de Gaulle fled abroad and continued to struggle in the Russian and British armies, and most of the officers and men took off their uniforms and military quietly, dressed in plain clothes, have continued to engage in what were engaged before the war: to sow grain, work in factories , trade ...

In Paris, continued to operate theaters and restaurants, a French began to flirt with the German soldiers and French factories without interruption produced military equipment, only now for the Wehrmacht. In the port of Le Havre was the German fleet, of Normandy, the departure of German U-boat wreck the British transport convoys, including on the way to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. All the French economy, and industry, and agriculture working for Hitler. The French are not particularly kompleksovat about the fact that they are working on the enemy. And what can you do, the war is lost ... Once our French state was so bad that lost the war, it means it serves him right. This does not rise to risk his head. All French cultural figures suffered terribly during the German occupation. They would not climb into the throat croissant, they davilis coffee with cream. Here's how suffered the insulted honor of the motherland. And in the evenings out and sang and danced for the German officers. And Edith Piaf and Maurice Chevalier. Only Jean Gabin wore American uniforms and honestly fought with the enemy. And the rest somehow managed without it. They had a purely spiritual protest. And Jean-Paul Sartre, and all the others ...

The Germans were evacuated from northern France, all Jews in concentration camps. Vichy asked them: what to do with the Jews to us? And do whatever you want - told them dirty Boches. We then send them to northern France, - answered the proud Gauls, and sent their Jews to certain death. Even General Franco has not expelled its Jews, but rather took the Spanish refugees from Vichy and the French - no. Not Rakovsky people of French Jews to save them. Oh and if they own France did not protect, then even more so they will not take risks because of some Jews.

No, of course, France was anti-Nazi underground, so-called "Maquis", but the underground was everywhere, even in Germany, I am not talking about Italy. Yet this underground did not play the significant role it retroactively attributed postwar historiography. Maybe France could defend. For this it was necessary to stabilize the front at any cost, to all-out mobilization, massive requisition, launch a guerrilla war in the enemy rear. Another had to start terror against its own population - the defeatists, deserters, pacifists simply. This meant that to win requires enormous sacrifices. Millions and millions of people have been killed. But they survived, they have children, and then came the grandchildren. Now, when we go to France, we find these old people. Starikov, whose lives have not been paid for the victory. Or otherwise - a defeat, it was the price that France paid for their life ...

uriart 03.07.2009 10:49

Cyril Syzransky, No, I did not write a receipt. They were waiting to receive the money and prepared shift pattern. I do not remember the details. But a very similar situation.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2009 11:01

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 453786)
They were waiting to receive money and prepared shift pattern.

Well, it's rude, not "aesthetic" ... : D
With a receipt, where the buyer wrote "I bought a fake and pritenzy the seller does not have a" funny and elegant.
As in the white pants in the Rio da Janeiro! Or in Sochi! : D

Jasmin 03.07.2009 11:02

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Сообщение от gorelov (Сообщение 453386)
Speaking of the French

They are rotten, and now Islamized to the same ...

Синица 03.07.2009 13:27

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 452546)
but I liked it)) beautiful! ))))

And I did not like. Freak.

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Although, of course,
Maybe he and his "pulled" - "the smartest" millionaire ...


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