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Vivod 28.04.2015 12:12

White Andrew (Boris Nikolaevich Bugaev) (1880— 1934)
 
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Good day!
Watercolors from a private collection.
Doubt about the authenticity of the authorship of the owner is not.
Ready to make an attribution in the ultimate buyer's request.
1930-31 gg
H see
Photo as per request.

Sincerely,
Sergey
8-966-to-C

Vivod 01.05.2015 17:32

raise
 
raise, let everyone look

Дилетант 01.05.2015 22:04

What about Andrew White - funny. About 1930 - 1931 - even funnier. Hardly a writer could so preposterously miss state reform spelling... :)
Yes and aquarelles-it is quite old. Style - boundary such aquarelles.
In General, and not the beginning of the 30's, and not Andrew. But A. F. White (1874 - ?) - why not?

usynin2 02.05.2015 22:56

Dilettante, Here on Sovkome sold and the signature is similar . You ,as always ,is perfect! http://sovcom.ru/index.php?category=...10&auction=142

Vivod 03.05.2015 21:59

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Сообщение от usynin2 (Сообщение 3443851)
Dilettante, Here on Sovkome sold and the signature is similar . You ,as always ,is perfect! http://sovcom.ru/index.php?category=...10&auction=142

Good evening! Here are the samples of the signature of Alexander Fedorovich White

Vivod 03.05.2015 22:02

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Сообщение от usynin2 (Сообщение 3443851)
Dilettante, Here on Sovkome sold and the signature is similar . You ,as always ,is perfect! http://sovcom.ru/index.php?category=...10&auction=142

But Andrew

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Сообщение от Дилетант (Сообщение 3443201)
About Andrew White - funny. About 1930 - 1931 - even funnier. Hardly a writer could so preposterously miss state reform spelling... :)
Yes and aquarelles-it is quite old. Style - boundary such aquarelles.
In General, and not the beginning of the 30's, and not Andrew. But A. F. White (1874 - ?) - why not?

What do you say, dear Maestro?

sideshowbob 03.05.2015 22:39

You know, I can not even understand, just absolutely ridiculous turns, but SAMPLES of the well Nicaean not similar to the signature on sold work)))) and only convinced of the rightness of the esteemed Dilettante

dato 03.05.2015 23:28

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Сообщение от Дилетант (Сообщение 3443201)
About Andrew White - funny. About 1930 - 1931 - even funnier. Hardly a writer could so preposterously miss state reform spelling... :)
Yes and aquarelles-it is quite old. Style - boundary such aquarelles.
In General, and not the beginning of the 30's, and not Andrew. But A. F. White (1874 - ?) - why not?

Dear Vivod, draw your own conclusion.:)

Дилетант 04.05.2015 00:21

I'll try to explain again.
In 1918 Russian orthography has changed quite significantly. In particular, from the alphabet was removed a number of letters (ive, er, FITA, and decimal, etc.)
Until 1918 the adjective (in this case - alias) "white" was written as "bely".
(Remember the famous gymnasium rhyme to help remember common words with the letter "Yat":
Bdny BglII bly devil
Lunch ran in lsj
Squirrel on ice he ran,
Radish with radish had lunch etc).
In the presented landscape surname "Bly" - TOspelling reform. I.e. the beginning of the 1930 - excluded... especially because Bugaev was not an ancient old man, did not live in the taiga skete, malenica and sling ink...:)
All other reasoning to explain for a long time. As they say nowadays - Google to the rescue.
(And we will die with our generation - what's it gonna be?)

Kaestlin 04.05.2015 03:39

Dilettante!
Amazed by the patience ! Separate thanks for the mnemonic rule (did not know)
The whole dialogue above is typologically accurate portrait dialogue of the owner with the scholar.
Overact.

Seller: here's Andrew White (Boris Nikolaevich Bugaev) (1880— 1934) Watercolour. 1930-31 gg
Doubt about the authenticity of the authorship of the owner is not.

Expert: OKS! look (not worry) : small issues in your signature, Bugaev little is known in terms of literature, he also wrote and signed it. Happened with him. Sometimes. How spelling reform?
And another little thing : aquarelles-the earlier will, the beginning of the century, the turn. Where it Boris Nick to ascribe? Leaves biograficheskii. Here (fear not) -there is a great author: White, A. F. where it all fits together (no, don't worry, the author is good). How are you?

- Seller: what are you here are you peddling White AF Shamanism and heresy. Here's the signature of Andrew White from the Internet, from the album Alyansky-1920. well unlike kartinki but the signature--then,yeah! Well, almost as my own, and spelling! Old, and how this incident is?

-Expert: I will try to explain again..

Дилетант 04.05.2015 08:31

Kaestlin,, Your thank you to me are very pleasant.
As for all else is vanity of it. The right word is vanity. Nonche well - not previous times; nonche - freedom!
Wants the owner to sell Paul, say, for Carl Bryullov, say, Bryullov... Or, for example, Nicholas Bruni for Fedor, say, Bruni... Yes pagasta! No problem!
And the experts - what are they? Biased they all (who does not know?)
And then: well, what I am, to the demons, judge? So, indulge in moderation...

P. S. by the Way: on the authorship of the A. F. White I by no means insist. Maybe not Alexander. It may actually unknown Akaki... Or Epipedon... Or, about to say - Ambrose... (As it's a classic A. T. namesake A. T. classic?
"Like an owl caught a bat,
Claws gripped her bones,
As the knight Ambrose with a crowd of men...")
In! Maybe this is the Ambrose. And even if free...

Vivod 04.05.2015 19:56

cheer up, all experts - thank you!

Once upon I he:
Made friends with the funeral.
Came to my skeleton
Many winters and many years.
Bone is strong, the heart is simple —
We bypassed the churchyard.
Remembered with a laugh he
Fun day of the funeral:—
As carried the coffin, the coffin,
As walked behind the coffin pop:
Have lit a censer nose.
A fat coachman took the coffin.
"With the saints give rest!"
Crushed us Board.
There were I he.
Tili-tili-tili-Dong!

Мимопроходил 04.05.2015 22:49

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Сообщение от Дилетант (Сообщение 3444331)
...На presents the views of the surname "Bly" - TOspelling reform. I.e. the beginning of the 1930 - excluded...

Dilettante, "ery-yati" in the signatures after the reform kept many of them, it to the wall did not put. For Example, V. N. Baksheev with "'erom" quietly until the postwar era was signed that did not stop him and nurhuda to get, and the Stalin prize.
Good luck to everyone!

Балагур 05.05.2015 08:18

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Сообщение от Дилетант (Сообщение 3444331)
I'll Try to explain again.
In 1918 Russian orthography has changed quite significantly. In particular, from the alphabet was removed a number of letters (ive, er, FITA, and decimal, etc.)

Aha! And all at once ceased to write them! "S-s-S" As the ancient Greeks said:)


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