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Георгий345 18.03.2015 18:44

I would venture. Burliuk?
 
Hello!
Ask to speak about the compliance of this work is put on her signature.
Briefly found running on similar topics realized that paintings are recognized as authentic, is significantly smaller than that on the contrary.
Four works signed Burliuk came to me along with a small number of postcards, envelopes from mail and catalogs from its galleries in America, as well as several works by other authors, which have to deal with separately.
Find out how it all came together for a number of reasons it is difficult. So this topic is an attempt to understand this set. Anything ordered from ebay in this set there, so it is not discussed.
The size of the picture - see CH
I would be grateful for any informed opinions.

John Preston 18.03.2015 18:52

Do not even think to take a risk.

This work has nothing in common with the works of D. D. Burliuk has not.

Saying that a person who is engaged Burlyuk over 10 years.


You need a reason? 1) the Iconography of persons - NOT Burliuk.
2) Creative manner is weak, far from it.

Weak attempt to give a picture n/x for Burliuk. Signed, as they say, in the test pattern! )

Dogel 18.03.2015 20:53

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 3408461)

Saying that a person who is engaged Burlyuk over 10 years.

http://www.icollector.com/David-Burl...n-Art_i9605696

Hi... here And there ??? he?

Георгий345 18.03.2015 22:14

Whether it was necessary to beat it all? What is the cost of a share does not match the result. Not every village can get so much props.
A bit of paperwork from the heap:

John Preston 19.03.2015 10:40

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 3408571)

Hello, Dennis.
This work is closer to D. Burliuk than topicstarter, but some doubt the authenticity I still have.
So with 100% confidence to make a conclusion about its authenticity would not risk.
Since we are talking about Israeli auction house, a country which is not a priori boasts a large creative heritage of the artist.
I've seen very good fakes under Burliuk, so it is not possible to clearly confirm the photo.

lip21 19.03.2015 10:47

Georgi, envelopes looks real but fakes on Burliuk more than his paintings.

Георгий345 19.03.2015 11:05

The serious approach of the scientific experts, and we have - lovers, more emotional and circumstantial evidence. Knowledge and no experience. Here are wrong.
Excerpt from a letter to one of the famous Soviet poet. Hi from the same sixties from the same minergia, applied to various paintings and sketches (Sychkov - mesicku, Picasso - natassa, Burliuk - nebulus, etc.):

John Preston 19.03.2015 11:09

[QUOTE=Георгий345;3408901]serious professionals scientific approach, and we have - lovers, more emotional and circumstantial evidence. Knowledge and no experience. Here are wrong.
Excerpt from a letter to one of the famous Soviet poet. Hi from the same sixties from the same minergia, applied to various paintings and sketches (Sychkov - mesicku, Picasso - natassa, Burliuk, and nebulous TD@

George, that all documents that are not related to Your work, unfortunately. You BURLIUK, no hopes, critics on the work of D. D. Burliuk will say the same thing...

Георгий345 19.03.2015 11:14

[QUOTE=lip21;3408801]George ... fakes on Burliuk more than his kartin@

This I already knew. Can't say that caught me of work are not just fakes. I just want to understand specifically in your case. I do not see its history selfish motive.

Георгий345 19.03.2015 11:20

John Preston, accept Your verdict. I see no reason not to trust You and Your expertise. Thank you for your attention to open my topic.

John Preston 19.03.2015 11:24

Now a lot of imitations of Burliuk, in particular at auction Gene Shapiro and other small American auctions. Even make copies of reproduced works and foist shamelessly!!

Георгий345 19.03.2015 12:41

In this case the issue price is miserable for some intricate gestures. What sort of ebay and Shapiro!? None of this money even for paints would not have gone. And to seek out postcards and packaging of shipments from the 60s to dig in correspondence with a famous person a letter with the mention of the paintings Burliuk ... And all this in a remote province. It hurts to bamboozle the plan. And because there were doubts. Now they are certainly less, but questions remain.

John Preston 19.03.2015 12:48

[QUOTE=Георгий345;3409011] one for the money even for paints would not Posel@

Someone with a certain intent signed work with Dr. H. Burliuk? So, saw this as a meaning for ourselves.

Георгий345 19.03.2015 13:37

Probably already tired of reading this detective story. It should, perhaps, to turn the subject.


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